Ex-Goldman Trader Gets Prison, Fined $118 Million

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by OnClose, Dec 6, 2013.

  1. At least he can tell his kids he was losing $1.5MM per tick in ES.
     
    #11     Dec 9, 2013
  2. Why ??
     
    #12     Dec 10, 2013
  3. volente_00

    volente_00


    Is my math wrong ?
    According to the article he had over 100,000 Es ?
     
    #13     Dec 10, 2013
  4. Ya.

    Assuming that ES was ~1400 or so it equates to 115k contracts. $8B/$70k (notional value of one ES fut) = 115k. $1.4-1.5MM per tick.
     
    #14     Dec 10, 2013
  5. "According to the CFTC complaint, Taylor concealed his position by bypassing Goldman Sachs’s internal system for routing trades to the Chicago Mercantile Exchange and manually entering fabricated futures trades in a different internal system."

    is this realistic or do you need a secret decoder ring to pull this off?
     
    #15     Dec 10, 2013
  6. Look at how many times it's happened. Barings was a one-off bc they were a tier 3 firm with one guy controlling trading and settlements. Kerviel (SocGen) and Obojungjbokoulu from UBS were little guys on D1 desks.

    Taylor was one of ten on the desk. This was easier to accomplish as the guy had some authority. I suppose the mindset was to disseminate the trades at a future date as being smaller size (per) and higher frequency; provided they were profitable. obviously this wasn't the case.
     
    #16     Dec 10, 2013
  7. volente_00

    volente_00


    Cme position limits don't apply to prop?
     
    #17     Dec 10, 2013
  8. Not if they're a MMing operation. I don't really know the regs as the only desk experience I have is a long time ago and OTC.
     
    #18     Dec 10, 2013
  9. If I was going to go to the clink for trading I would at least be trading 10mm a tick.

    What. A. Chump.
     
    #19     Dec 10, 2013
  10. toolazy

    toolazy

    what can I say...

    he is lucky us is not china for now. else shooting squad :eek:
     
    #20     Dec 10, 2013