Ex-dividend date

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by WXYGUY, Sep 27, 2024.

  1. How do I avoid US withholding tax on dividends?

    Under the Treaty, there is a special
    exemption from U.S. withholding
    tax on interest and dividend income
    that you earn from U.S. investments
    through a trust set up exclusively for
    the purpose of providing retirement
    income. These trusts include RRSPs,
    RRIFs, LIRAs, LIFs, LRIFs and
    Prescribed RRIFs. They do not include
    RESPs, TFSAs and RDSPs.
    .

    I can still get a foreign tax credit.

    Hey can I write off the withheld tax?
     
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2024
    #41     Sep 29, 2024
  2. deaddog

    deaddog

    Did you see the part about TFSA?? The highlighted do not??
    Correct you avoid the withholding in a trust but you pay income tax on withdrawal.
    Death and taxes :(
    Trusts come with their own problems when you withdraw. Can't recontribute and tax bracket expansion.
     
    #42     Sep 29, 2024
  3. BMK

    BMK

    In most cases, you can avoid double taxation. You may be able to claim a credit on your Canadian tax return for the tax paid to a foreign country (the USA). Alternatively, you may be able to recover most or all of the tax withheld by filing a US tax return.

    You can't do both LOL. You can't get a refund of the tax from the US government (the IRS) and also claim a credit for that tax on your Canadian tax return.

    You need to consult a Canadian accountant who is familar with these issues. You need to decide if you're going to have enough dividends subject to US tax to make it worth all the trouble and expense of filing extra tax forms.
     
    #43     Sep 29, 2024
  4. Obviously I'm not going to do my taxes myself.. I should be able to deduct the 15% from my total income meaning I pay less Canadian taxes.

    So if I collect 100k in dividends...I lose 15k to US tax...so my (Canadian) taxable income should be 75k...then I can apply for tax credits. Essentially if my income tax rate for 100k is 20%, then I should only be taxed 5% after the 15% or else I'm getting double taxed!
     
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    #44     Sep 29, 2024
  5. BMK

    BMK

    The system isn't perfect LOL If the two countries have different tax rates then you may ultimately have to pay some tax to both countries on some of the income. The credit from one country may not fully offset the tax assessed by the other country.

    That's the way the world works, Dude.

    Apple tried to get highly favorable taxation by moving to Ireland, but the courts in the EU said Ireland was doing it wrong LOL

    And apparently Kazakhstan is really, really bad:

    https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/never-ever-come-to-kazakhstan-if-you-invest-trade.378559/
     
    #45     Sep 29, 2024
  6. .
    https://www.canada.ca/en/department...on-consolidated-1980-1983-1984-1995-1997.html

    3. The term "dividends" as used in this Article means income from shares or other rights, not being debt-claims, participating in profits, as well as income subjected to the same taxation treatment as income from shares by the taxation laws of the State of which the company making the distribution is a resident.




    Here is an example how dividend tax credits go:

    https://mccayduff.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-tax-treatment-of-dividend-income/#:~:text=Types of Dividends,-Canadian corporations classify&text=If your dividend is eligible,paid a lower tax rate
     
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    #46     Sep 29, 2024
  7. deaddog

    deaddog

  8. Yeah but I already got charged 15% on the $100,000 so my gross income should be reduced to 75,000... Or my tax rate should be lowered to the marginal rate minus 15% if gross income is being calculated as 100k... Or I should be able to write off $15,000 as a loss... Or I should be able to receive tax credits that will offset the 15%

    Anyway, I'll have my account figure it out.
     
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    #48     Sep 29, 2024

  9. Yeah I read that topic when I came out... What's he talking about that they have an unrealized gains tax??!!!
     
    #49     Sep 29, 2024
  10. deaddog

    deaddog

    I was going to suggest that. :)
     
    #50     Sep 29, 2024
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