"We are not after the hyper active day traders. " - BEN BRIGEMAN, EVP, HEAD OF SCHWAB INVESTOR SERVICES, CHARLES SCHWAB To find the quote, call up the following link & search for "cyber trader" (2 words) in the text & read what they finally admit. http://insurancenewsnet.com/article.asp?n=1&neID=20080417560.2_09a3b6b746ac5094 Apparently they no longer wanted the hyper active cybertrader day traders. It's odd that they advertise on this trader site. It also explains why doing basic things such as shorting thru ECN's wasn't activated thru Schwab before any Cybertrader elimination. That's something "hyper active daytraders", such as us, need, and a target audience, that according to that quote, is a group that Schwab aren't going after anymore. Why they weren't up front when the "migration" was first mentioned is a little disheartening.