Two things; 1. "we cannot possibly understand God" should be " we cannot possibly FULLY understand God. Because you understand God enough to conceptualize it. And a conceptualization must have rules and boundaries in order to comprehend it. 2. "Beyond the scope of science" makes no sense at all since the foundation of science is discovery. Often by chance. So if you claim that something is beyond science, what you are claiming is that there are things that don't exist and hence cannot be discovered all the while claiming that these non-existent things have influence on things that exist whether discovered yet or not.
I just love it when my 4 year old tells me I am not being fair. I typically respond by telling him I do not have to be fair, but I try to be just. Which usually changes the whole dynamic. (unless he is very cranky.)
Are you trying to be a judge? Or a simple RE attorney? BTW: is it getting any better down South. Because LA is heating up again big time. The bottom was definitely in a year ago.
Being that moms are so full of unconditional love, I think dads should raise their kids the way Plato might. (as a counter balance.) That it is bit of joke... but not really. .... you were basically right. The under 500 market does seem to be going up a bit. 600 - 900 stable or up a tiny amount... The high end is still collapsing.
I can accept your beliefs without insulting you...can you do the same with me? I don't think I have ever said atheism is wrong, or that atheists are somehow inferior. All I have ever said is that I am not a Christian, nor am I ex Christian. I do not think it is reasonable for someone to argue that if God exists, then God should be understood and all of God's actions should be understandable by a human being. The human mind is not capable of creating a universe, nor even fully understanding the universe man lives in...but if God exists God should be fully understandable?
1. If you think you can understand a whole by examination of some of the parts...go for it. 2. Can science measure an idea? What is the means that science measures ideas? Has science ever actually measured human consciousness and its various manifestation? If the mental realm and consciousness is beyond the scope of science, then what of God?
1. Recall, you suggest we can't know God at all. I'm saying that you won't find any who agree to that who are theists. They will at the most concede or proffer that "His way is are higher than ours." But what does that mean accept that they cannot fully comprehend God but can in part understand? If you say that you cannot in part understand, then God is therefore undefined. But the problem is, even God as a concept is defined. Whether God or gods are real is a whole different matter. For without at least a definition, you'd have no idea what to observe for. And that goes for theists and atheists alike. The theists will "observe" god via their definition of it by what they perceive is its interaction with the material world. The atheist will observe god by the theist definition or by accidentally stumble upon him should there be no other possible natural way to explain its manifestation. 2. Can science "measure" an idea? "Measure" consciousness? Metaphysical double-speak aside, an idea is an idea. consciousness is consciousness. You can observe both once they are manifested. And they will inevitably manifest themselves. Then it can be tested, experimented upon, etc. But be careful with your analogy. You realize that by equating God with an idea, you are making God out to be a figment of imagination. Unintended, I'm sure. But it is the conclusion from your analogy.
1. I suggest you can't know God at all. What do I mean when I write the word know.? God is clearly defined as beyond the human mind. Beyond human imagination. The greatest. Eternal. Absolute. Larger than the largest and also smallest than the smallest. Unlimited. It is bit like saying a person can understand the concept of nothing. Is it possible to take away everything (including the human mind) to experience nothing? Does "nothing" actually exist within the universe? Certain concepts can be quasi understood via the human mind, but not experienced nor genuinely understood. Where the human mind trips out and fails is in its own nature of being a part of time and space, when God is beyond the limits of time and space. 2. Science can measure electrical impulses. Science cannot tell what specific thoughts are by measuring electrical impulses in the brain, science can't tell what ideas someone is having, science cannot measure what human consciousness is, science can only measure with physical instruments, and the reality of ideas and concepts are beyond the physical. Oh, I am not equating God with an idea, as an idea is limited, singular in nature. Each idea is only a fraction of all possible ideas, and God is a whole value. No no worries, the concept of God is not based on imagination, the concept of God is based on the principles of Ontological philosophical inquiry.