---------------------- ======== Great points,Mr 8; on the other hand Free T had a Los Angeles ,CA cutie that believed in evolution... Easy to be fooled by a skirt, Eagle Forum queen says. Great points; frankly the creation thousands of years old perhaps make the most sense; but those are notes & margin notes that say that in the bible.{Not the hebrew words or english translation] ] So while probably right, wouldnt be dogmatic on the earth age. Albert Einsten pretty much proved time was/is not a constant; option traders proved that all the time, more or less
this is what I mean. wow! (Reuters) - A monster black hole shredded a Sun-like star, producing a strangely long-lasting flash of gamma rays that probably won't be seen again in a million years, astronomers reported on Thursday. That is definitely not the norm for gamma ray bursts, energetic blasts that typically flare up and end in a matter of seconds or milliseconds, often the sign of the death throes of a collapsing star. "This is truly different from any explosive event we have seen before," said Joshua Bloom of the University of California-Berkeley, a co-author of research on the blast published in the journal Science. Initially spied on March 28 by NASA's Swift spacecraft, which is trolling the universe for gamma ray bursts, this particular flash has lasted more than two months and is still going on, Bloom said in a telephone interview. What makes this even stranger is that the black hole, located in the constellation Draco (The Dragon) about 4 billion light years, or 24 sextillion miles (38.62 sextillion km) -- 24 followed by 21 zeroes -- from Earth, was sitting quietly, not eating much, when a star about the mass of our Sun moved into range. "We have this otherwise dormant black hole, not gobbling up an appreciable amount of mass, and along comes this star which just happens to be on some orbit which puts it close to the black hole," Bloom said. FEEDING FRENZY "This was a black hole which was otherwise quiescent and it sort of has an impulsive feeding frenzy on this one star," he said. Bloom figures this may happen once per black hole per million years. This kind of behavior is different from what active black holes generally do, which is to suck in everything their vast gravity can pull in, even light. Most galaxies, including our Milky Way, are thought to harbor black holes in their hearts. Black holes are invisible, but astronomers can infer their existence because the material they pull in lights up before it gets sucked in. In this case, though, the black hole feasted on one star -- about the same mass as our Sun -- with such relish that it tore the star apart before gulping it down. As it did so, the black hole emitted powerful gamma ray jets from its center as bits of the dying star were turned into energy. The black hole's gravitational pull was so great that it exerted what's called a tidal disruption on the passing star. Astronomers could use this observation to help them learn more about how black holes grow, Bloom said. "We still don't understand how black holes and the universe grow," he said. "We think most black holes start off as being no more than the mass of our Sun ... How they go from 10 solar masses to a billion solar masses is critical." There is a strong connection between the mass of black holes and the mass of the galaxies that host them, with black holes feeding on gas and stars that come near. (Editing by Cynthia Osterman) http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/20/us-space-blackhole-idUSTRE75F6W120110620 '
I feel like going into my bid ideas again....Science is the new religion. If 'God' is out there, clearly the game is for us to find him. That's why we're all born with the driving questions: 'why? what is it all about?' Science tells that we are all family. Knowledge, wisdom, love all go hand in hand. Einstein was a beautiful man. Look at all the fantastic quotes he's left about the man's place in the universe. But, it's very clear to me that after death, we no longer exist as individuals. We are beings of this planet...our hormones and brain chemistry that make us who we are. I'm cool with that because I used to be absolutely tormented at the concept of Eternal Life as it was presented to me as a boy. Are there really that few us that have tried to imagine what that's like? what the hell is eternity? wtf am I gonna do with that? When you believe in the 'afterlife' I think it makes you have less respect for life itself. ...makes it easier to kill, and more than that....makes it easier to fritter your own life away. I was guilty of that for most of my life. No longer. I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly.
If he wasn't being told what to think, he wouldn't be able to think at all. I am grateful to my former church for one thing. They weren't the anti-evolution, anti-intellectual goobers I see here and elsewhere. This bullshit is downright medieval.
As the net took hold and it became apparent that it would soon connect all, I thought the free flow of information would solve some of mankind's poorly considered beliefs. Ranging from socialism to devout religion to nutjob conspiracy theories, it seemed to me that the ready availability of information would result in a great deal of truth being disseminated. It would appear that you and I can agree on one thing. I was wrong. I am astonished to discover just how hard stoopid ideas are to destroy. I do not refer to value judgements, like whether or how much socialism can we afford to purchase or should we allow people to smoke WTF they want. I do refer to things like scientists are engaged in an evil conspiracy to push the theory of evolution and Bush planned 9/11. There is no amount of evidence, no massive truckload of facts, no shipload of data that can sway these people. They are inviolate, immovable against any amount of information. To quote Al Pacino in Glengarry Glen Ross:
I've seen both sides of the argument and I decided that evolution as origin is really crazy. What's wrong with that? They've been teaching it to kids from kindergarten up for a few generations now and it's entrenched. Nobody bothers that much to do their due diligence and question authority and all that, they swallow it blindly and blind they seem to be... not a problem that much for me except for the lame arguments about a subject with no proof possible...
As origin? Evolution is not about as origin. That's what's wrong with that. It's true. So Eight, do you consider it clever or maybe somehow spiritual to keep yourself ignorant of the facts for evolution?
Richard Dawkins: Religious faith not only lacks evidence, its independence from evidence is its pride and joy, shouted from the rooftops.