Evidence of Collusion

Discussion in 'Politics' started by exGOPer, Jul 9, 2017.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    That's simply not correct. Campaign officials meeting with people to get information on the opposition is not illegal. In fact it has been done all the time for over 200 years in the U.S.
     
    #41     Jul 10, 2017
  2. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    You can meet people - you just can't meet FOREIGN people, that's a big distinction. The word FOREIGN makes it illegal - just like taking money from people is legal as long as they are US citizens, any foreign money is illegal. What Trump Jr. did was accept an implied promise of an in kind donation to the campaign, that's criminal.

    52 U.S.C. 30121:

    It shall be unlawful for (1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make (A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation.

     
    #42     Jul 10, 2017
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    First you have to vet the person to be sure they are or are not a foreign national. Second, information has already been declared by courts to not be a "thing of value" in regards to campaigns. You are on very weak legal ground here.
     
    #43     Jul 10, 2017
  4. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    1. So Trump Jr. didn't knew the person was a foreign national? If that's the case then why would he claim that it was about Russian adoption. LOL

    2. Which court ruled that damaging info on your opposition wasn't a thing of value? Citation?
     
    #44     Jul 10, 2017
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Alright show me one example, just one, of someone being prosecuted in the U.S. for providing information on the opposition to a campaign. Doesn't exist.

    Not illegal, no matter what your fantasy may be.
     
    #45     Jul 10, 2017
  6. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    That 'someone' was a FOREIGNER - why do you keep insisting to ignore that part, I don't want to go looking for examples because such level of treason is NOT common, treachery is new ground we are covering with the Trump crime family.
     
    #46     Jul 10, 2017
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So you are now calling the Trump family the "Trump crime family" with no reasonable evidence or proof. While you are calling the meeting of the advisors of a candidate with a foreigner treason.

    Why don't we discuss all the foreigners Obama and his advisors met with before he was elected President (including all of his overseas trips). Based on your standard of evidence all of Obama's pre-election activities involving foreigners are just all "levels of treason".
     
    #47     Jul 10, 2017
  8. It's like you're going out of your way to appear obtuse. Careful that it doesn't start coming naturally...
     
    #48     Jul 10, 2017
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  9. Tom B

    Tom B

    Like it does for you.
     
    #49     Jul 10, 2017
  10. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    LOL, who said MEETING foreigners is illegal? The difference here is WHY Trump Jr. met - he met to get an in kind donation for his campaign, that's the illegal part. Ever heard of mens rea?
     
    #50     Jul 10, 2017
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