And of course you must zoom in on the most outrageous explanation when many other more believable explanations exist Learn to apply Occams razor and stop introducing unrequired third entities which you pull out of the blue. peace axeman
as shocking as it may be, a supernatural event hasn't happened to anyone in this thread, nor anyone they know.
Most likely, the difference is in perceptions, not in reality. In the same position as these people, I bet nothing "weird" would have happened to me. Which also explains why nothing "weird' has ever happened to me. Funny how I seem to have this magical power that prevents all supernatural phenomenon from occurring anywhere near me peace axeman
But you're still missing the point. Why can't you let people share what they think are legitimate supernatural experiences? They might be right. They might not. Let every body get it out in teh open and let us all judge for ourselves instead of the sideline commentary. Don't you think the good readers of e.t. can analyze things for themselves?
1. "Blah Blah". Very intellectual, very scientific. 2. "huge leap"???:eek: Wow, Axe, now you've really convinced me that you have no intellectual honesty. Hmm, let's see. Kid's sick for a year. Been in the hospital for a while, doctors have no cure. go to the Rabbi, next day the kid's fine. Doctors have no explanation. Huge leap. Yeah, really huge, lol. Just for you, Axe, another story: my father went to a Rabbi who proceeded to tell him about something that happened to my father 40 years ago, which my father just happened to never have told a soul. My father had never seen this Rabbi before. Care to explain that ?
And, why must we consider that the "outrageous" explanation is always false? It's only outrageous to the diehard Darwinist oftentimes. Let me give an example. On 3/13/97 the famous "Phoenix Lights Incident" occurred in my home city here. As you may know, it was witnessed by 100's of Phoenicians. One of the onlookers was a local neurosurgeon named Dr. Lynne Kitei. Out of fear of attack from people like yourself I am sure and fear for her practice, she remained underground about what she saw until recently when she had her story published in the April issue of Phoenix magazine. Her husband is a prominent Phoenix physician and saw them as well as did many others around the Valley. These came by relatively close to her balcony - she lives in the elite part of town and if you read her story you would definitely not believe that she saw "military flares or balloons". Now could the good doctor have been smoking peyote? Possibly. But why doubt her immediately? (And, for the record, I don't believe UFO's visited Phoenix - I believe it was probably a spiritual phenomenon.)
1. "Blah Blah". Very intellectual, very scientific. A very rational and mature response. 2. "huge leap"???:eek: Wow, Axe, now you've really convinced me that you have no intellectual honesty. Hmm, let's see. Kid's sick for a year. Been in the hospital for a while, doctors have no cure. go to the Rabbi, next day the kid's fine. Doctors have no explanation. Huge leap. Yeah, really huge, lol. Now you have really convinced me you havent the faintest understanding of basic statistics and are simply arguing from ignorance. Please go ask a PHD statistician if this means anything at all Just for you, Axe, another story: my father went to a Rabbi who proceeded to tell him about something that happened to my father 40 years ago, which my father just happened to never have told a soul. My father had never seen this Rabbi before. Care to explain that ? Hearsay. Im not required to explain anything. If you are asserting there is something supernatural involved, then the burden of proof is on you to prove it. Even better.... contact this Rabbi and have him immediately contact the Amazing Randi at Randi.org. He should be able to easily prove clairvoyant ability and collect the ONE MILLION dollar cash prize which im SURE he would have lots of wonderful uses for, like helping people. Easy money right? Lets hear the excuses now peace axeman
Yes, you are. If anyone posts an experience, you're all over it with peanut gallery comments about it's probable falsity and the writer's obvious self-deception. Then comes the Amazing Randi... Again, what is the point? Nobody is preaching on here. Nobody is trying to convert anyone else. Can't you save the comments for another thread?
See Shoe.... here you show your true colors. You SHOULD consider ALL explanations as possibly being false. Thats how critical thinkers and scientists work. The phoenix lights are just yet another story. And again... I point out that you immediately jump to a "spiritual explanation" when we have not even yet begun to examine the natural explanation. To make an extreme example: Today I observed a rock break loose from a canyon wall and tumble down. Which of the following hypothesis's makes more sense: 1) Slow erosion over time and the effects of gravity causes the rock to break loose and tumble down the canyon. 2) An alien space craft was orbiting earth and the aliens wanted to play a prank on me so they hit the rock with their invisible tractor beam causing it to break free and roll down the canyon wall. Hypothesis #2 is the type you lean towards first. Hypothesis #1 is the type I lean towards first. The fact is... you are WRONG to choose the extraordinary hypothesis FIRST without first exploring the more obvious explanation which also does not contradict our known knowledge of the universe. Your "spiritual explanation" for the lights is a #2 style hypothesis. Simply way out there when more probable explanations exist. Kinda like the crop circle guys who swore they were alien created. Then, lo and behold!!! A bunch of dudes ADMIT it was all a hoax and have a detailed photographic record of their art work over the decades. peace axeman