Never had a supernatural experience. Duh. It has always struck me as funny how the hard core logical/scientific types never seem to have spooky/weird experiences. What is more amazing is, that when these types visit someone who claims they can produce weird/spooky phenomenon, they suddenly CANT with the scientist present. Ive always found, and there is a lot of supporting evidence for this via courts/psychology, that humans have this amazing revisionist memory capability. Sure you werent just worked up into an emotional state by the book, had the chandelier crash down, and you brain mixed up the timeline? Its possible. Considering how many weird/spooky reports there are all over the world, isnt it interesting that none of this stuff can ever be replicated or even captured on video once?? Hehehehe..... man... its all bullshit. If any of this stuff was real, there would surely be some hardcore evidence for it by none, yet there is none. I dont think we have to look very far beyond the human imagination for explanations. In your case, your heightened state of emotion due to the scary book you were enthralled with, is supporting evidence for a natural explanation. Lets apply Occams razor: 1) Your creative human imagination got the best of you, and a chandelier that coincidentally fell from the ceiling was weaved into your memories in a such a way to "fit" your current scared/spooky state of mind. 2) Ghosts/weird beings really do exist, which have never been proven or detected by science, even though paranormal researchers have been attempting this for decades. Chances are.... nothing really spooky was going on outside your head. peace axeman
Rowenwood's tactic above is also common: try to change the thread topic to something completely irrelevant. I've even seen the juvenile tactic of spamming the thread with large pics or size 120+ font. Now axe is trying to turn this into a Philosophy 101 debate. Let's see what they do next...
Excuse me.... but I never mentioned religion ANYWHERE in my reply. Learn to read. Hmmm.... now why would you WANT to convey that im trying to turn this into a religious debate, when this is clearly not the case? Oh oh ... im officially one of the "they" guys. LOL Were all out to get you shoe! LOL peace axeman
Hallucinations are the closest I've ever come to spiritual experiences or ghost sigthings et cetera. Funny how the quasi-spiritual hippy types are often gays. I'm not a homophobe or Anti-gay, a large amount of the best artists and thinkers are and were homos, but my roommate is a stereotypical faggot hippy type like so many that I've encountered. The idiot has the audacity to complain yet I'm forced to smell his stench daily. His room stinks, he stinks, his friends stink. If you're going to be spiritual or religious, don't also play the hippy image: it's a grotesque combination. So I told him that he smells and then I told him that he has no chance of ever becoming a good musician. The guy is so stupid that he's mistaken my condescension of him as just plain stupidity. I guess I overplayed, or I'm a great actor. When condescension backfires and results in passive- aggressive hostility.
Clam down shiny, I consider happaboy a good acquaintance of mine. If he wants to believe in ghosts he deserves to because he's a worthwhile person. I'm sure he knew that there would be disagreements.
That's real subtle guys - try to bloat the thread with completely irrelevant ramblings. We're all in awe of your superior intellect . Now can you go away and talk to your fellow Darwinists and pat each other on the butt and leave the rest of us alone?
Right, Axeman, of course. It's just an amazing coincidence that my great-aunt in her 80 years of life never dreamed of her brother coming to tell her that he's dead. Except for right after it happened. Just a coincidence...
It gets old after awhile to those of us who feel we have experienced a spiritual side of life to have secular humanists constantly telling us we're hallucinating, etc. You guys all admittedly have never experienced such events, so why not just leave us alone? If you want to be anti-supernatural, fine, that's your opinion, but let the rest of us investigate our own worldviews without constant "alpha dog" humanism...
I'm just expressing myself, and now you've gone and brought Darwin into the debate. Do you believe in Darwinism? Why do you mistake that I'm trying to be subtle? And fuck your fascist relevancy, and, not that my ramblings are any less relevant than the shit you write, or that my statements are more rambling than your incompetency. You're beginning to upset me, and when upset I'm also often quite hateful.