Event Driven Option Plays

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Sekiyo, Feb 16, 2025.

  1. taowave

    taowave

    Matt from Orats is the guy to ask

     
    #31     Feb 17, 2025
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  2. Sekiyo

    Sekiyo

    I've downloaded the 200 stocks that went up the most in terms of standard deviation on last Friday.

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    The average beta is 1.15 or slightly more volatile than the market.
    So maybe volatile stocks are likelier to experience multiple StDev moves.

    Good point !
     
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    #32     Feb 17, 2025
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  3. deltaf0rce

    deltaf0rce

    So since we are hunting for mispriced tails, that’s where we want to go dial in, I would think. I’ve had my kids all long weekend but I’ll get my sleeves up on this later. When we can boil it down to a model, and then bet size appropriately, this could be really good. It’s something I think worth following up on as a real edge, in one large part because Taleb wrote the entire treatise about black swans and mispriced tails.
     
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  4. Sekiyo

    Sekiyo

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    I've added Beta (correlated with HV ?).
    These are today's earnings. I'll update with the %move tomorrow.
    I don't think the OI has any predictive power. Not sure about the skew.

    The best play (Risk/Reward wise) was PARA put ^^
    Need to find a scoring system maybe that takes all the relevant factors into account.
     
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    #34     Feb 17, 2025
  5. When I first saw the Thread Title,
    I thought you meant things like the UNH assassination.
     
    #35     Feb 17, 2025
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  6. Sekiyo

    Sekiyo

    Yeah why not it had a nice move down
    It’s a decent event driven play

    Let me know if you plan to kill a CEO

    Back to earnings, I think it’s useful to look at past earnings AND industry related earnings for the same quarter.
     
    #36     Feb 17, 2025
  7. I did feel a little guilty,
    but I did buy <500 and rode it up a bit.
    I still don't feel right about it.
     
    #37     Feb 17, 2025
  8. Sekiyo

    Sekiyo

    You ain’t committing a crime here.
    You’re not disrespecting him.
    That’s just … life.

    Shit happens.
     
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    #38     Feb 17, 2025
  9. Sekiyo

    Sekiyo

    #39     Feb 17, 2025
  10. deltaf0rce

    deltaf0rce

    The big problem on this is the liquidity in the options after earnings, especially on the shorter series. I was doing some scans of 10b+ market caps fitting this criteria we have been developing and although we have some theoretical edge I think in applying this, we’re going to have some real world limitations. I have a board of these now I am going to watch for a bit and see how it plays out.
     
    #40     Feb 18, 2025
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