If I suggest a simple modification for the description of this forum from this " Politics & Religion: Not for the faint of heart. If you are easily offended, stay away from this forum! " to be changed to something like this " Politics & Religion: Not for the faint of heart. For decent arguments and polite discussions, welcome to join this forum! ". What do you think?
If the trolling is decent and polite, it's just for entertainment to everyone. Should be fine for killing time! The forum will be still moderated, right?
Not really! Every individual's eternity is her/his contributions to the world while living. Contributions can be in real terms of sayings/thoughts, writings (including ET forums)/books, acts/helping others, creations/inventions, arts/music/painting, etc. that can be passed to any others on earth, for the generations to come.
In post #697 from Future Currents he shows the well known combination of ice core data and twentieth century Mauna Loa CO2 data. Let's leave aside the question of the corrections needed to be able to combine the core and Mauna Loa samples on the same chart, and assume these were done competently. The chart, because of the very long time it covers, shows Twentieth Century change in CO2 as a vertical line. Because the y-axis starts at 150 ppm instead of zero it appears that CO2 has doubled, it has actually only going up by 40%. It is only a trace component so small increase of 100 ppm is a large percentage increase. We can estimate how much CO2 we put into the air. Though the increase we observe is greater than this estimate, it seems likely that a good bit of this increase is due to Man made CO2. What we want to know is not whether we are putting CO2 into the air, we are of course, but is the CO2 put into the air going to make our planet's temperature rise to dangerous levels. Unfortunately the chart can't answer that question. And even more unfortunate than that, neither can any model developed so far.
^"Actually it is ONLY going up by 40%" Well good thing that the earth's most important greenhouse gas has ONLY gone up by MERE 40%. That's hardly anything. Do you know Bill Happer? Over the course of their investigation, Greenpeace posed as the representative of a Middle Eastern oil and gas company and an Indonesian coal company. In the guise of a Beirut-based business consultant they asked William Happer , the Cyrus Fogg Brackett professor of physics at Princeton University, to write a report touting the benefits of rising carbon emissions, according to email exchanges between the professor and the fake company. In both cases, the professors discussed ways to obscure the funding for the reports, at the request of the fake companies. In Happer’s case, the CO2 Coalition which was to receive the fee suggested he reach out to a secretive funding channel called Donors Trust, in response to a request from the fake Greenpeace entity to keep the source of funds secret. Not disclosing funding in this way is not unlawful under US law. Also, in an email exchange with the fake business representative, Happer acknowledges that his report would probably not pass peer-review with a scientific journal – the gold-standard process for quality scientific publication whereby work is assessed by anonymous expert reviewers. “I could submit the article to a peer-reviewed journal, but that might greatly delay publication and might require such major changes in response to referees and to the journal editor that the article would no longer make the case that CO2 is a benefit, not a pollutant, as strongly as I would like, and presumably as strongly as your client would also like,” he wrote. He suggested an alternative process whereby the article could be passed around handpicked reviewers. “Purists might object that the process did not qualify as a peer review,” he said. “I think it would be fine to call it a peer review.” Greenpeace said its investigation demonstrated how, unbeknownst to the public, the fossil fuel industry could inject paid-for views about climate change into the international debate, confusing the public and blocking prospects for strong action to avoid dangerous warming. “Our research reveals that professors at prestigious universities can be sponsored by foreign fossil fuel companies to write reports that sow doubt about climate change and that this sponsorship will then be kept secret,” said John Sauven, the director of Greenpeace UK. “Down the years, how many scientific reports that sowed public doubt on climate change were actually funded by oil, coal and gas companies? This investigation shows how they do it, now we need to know when and where they did it.” Such practices are receiving greater scrutiny in academic circles after it emerged that Dr Willie Soon, a researcher at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics who rejects mainstream climate science, was financed almost entirely by fossil fuel companies and lobby groups and a foundation run by the ultra-conservative Koch brothers. The Smithsonian launched an investigation. In Happer’s case, the physicist declined any personal remuneration for his work but wanted his fee donated to the CO2 Coalition. Happer wrote in an email that his fee was $250 an hour and that it would require four days of work – a total of $8,000. “Depending on how extensive a document you have in mind, the time required or cost could be more or less, but I hope this gives you some idea of what I would expect if we were to proceed on some mutually agreeable course,” he wrote. Greenpeace argues its investigation offered a rare glimpse into the practice of clandestine industry funding of reports casting doubts about the threat of climate change. The campaign group argues that obscuring funding in this way dupes the public into thinking the reports are produced by the scholars independently with no financial interests at stake. Happer, who served as an energy adviser for former president George HW Bush, has long argued that rising carbon emissions are a net benefit for humanity. He returned to the point in his email exchanges with the fake entity, saying: “The Paris climate talks are based on the premise that CO2 itself is a pollutant. This is completely false. More CO2 will benefit the world.” http://www.theguardian.com/environm...e-exposes-sceptics-cast-doubt-climate-science
Yes, I will not be allowed to post "THE CHART". Actually, that's great. It makes it more profound, besides, conservatives can't read a chart anyway.
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Unusual weather is dominating the conversation on social media for the holidays, especially among millennials, who are increasingly concerned about climate change. Yik Yak, a location-based mobile app popular with millennials, surveyed its audience and found nearly 70 percent are worried about climate change. More than a quarter of them say their concern has grown due to the unusual winter weather this year. In New York City, 65-degree-plus weather is predicted for Christmas Day, potentially breaking the record high of 64 degrees in 1982. In Europe, Alpine ski slopes are facing one of the warmest Decembers on record and even glacial Moscow has been chalking up above-zero thermometer readings. That's led to a jump in the number of people posting about climate change on Yik Yak. "Climate Change is clearly an issue! It's going to be 70 degrees in DC on Christmas Day... I mean if that's not proof, what is?" posted a Yik Yak user from Boulder, Colorado. Another user from College Station, Texas, wrote: "I feel like more people should pay attention to it. It's a bigger deal than people make it out to be." Of the 30 percent of respondents who said they were not concerned about climate change, 18 percent said they did not know or did not care about the issue, while just 9 percent thought it was myth. About 6 percent said unusual weather was just a part of the earth's natural process, according to Yik Yak. Nearly 21,000 users participated in the poll. Yik Yak polls are often used to discuss hot topics among millennials, such as Star Wars or Netflix binge-watching. The app turned to the serious topic of climate change after Saturday's U.S. Democratic presidential debate prompted an outpouring of Yik Yak user frustration that there were no questions about global warming and climate change. According to the environmental advocacy group NextGen Climate, 74 percent of voters under 35 - approximately 80 million of whom are eligible to vote in 2016 - said they would be more likely to vote for a presidential candidate with a plan to tackle climate change. About 63 percent of young voters said they would be more likely to vote for Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton if she supports clean energy goals, NextGen Climate said, based on results of a survey done in September. http://news.yahoo.com/unusual-winter-millennials-concerned-climate-change-193246480.html
The Republican party is totally out of touch with what is going on in the real world futurecurrents. Mitch McConnell and the Coal Industry’s Last Stand "Shale gas, solar, wind, new regulations and environmentalists have put relentless pressure on coal. But the Senate majority leader still believes he can stem the tide. ...Coal needs all the friends it can get. The industry is under siege from federal regulation, most recently Obama’s Clean Power Plan, which went into effect on Oct. 23 and seeks to reduce carbon emissions by 32 percent by 2030. Consumers and activists, meanwhile, are persuading utilities to close aging coal-fired power plants. With funding from Bloomberg Philanthropies, the Sierra Club’s Beyond Coal campaign has helped shut down more than 220 coal facilities over the past five years. (Bloomberg Philanthropies was created by Michael Bloomberg, founder and owner of Bloomberg LP, which publishes this website.) ...For McConnell, coal was one battle in a much larger political war. Then the Republican minority leader, he had been fighting almost all of Obama’s initiatives. “The single most important thing we want to achieve,” McConnell told National Journal in 2010, “is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”.. http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...-mcconnell-and-the-coal-industry-s-last-stand