Even the Pope sides with Futurecurrents

Discussion in 'Politics' started by nitro, Jun 16, 2015.

  1. nitro

    nitro

    So I am confused, are you catholic? I just vaguely remember all these God vs Science debates between you and Stu, and you seemed to side with God. I just want clarification.
     
    #61     Jun 18, 2015
  2. nitro

    nitro

    jem,

    To you, if an article gets submitted to arxiv, is it considered "peer reviewed" ? Let's start by definitions so that we don't run around each other.
     
    #62     Jun 18, 2015

  3. Yes of course. And up is down and black white.


    Here jem, you can start here.

    https://www.google.com/webhp?source...e=UTF-8#q=evidence of man made global warming
     
    #63     Jun 18, 2015
  4. jem

    jem

    they were not god vs science debates.

    they were do top scientists state the universe appears designed.
    or in other scientific words... how do you explain the incredible fine tuning of the fundamental constants of the universe. the answers many top scientists give is... that you either have to believe in the multi verse or that the yes it looks as if the universe we live in is designed.

    whether I believe in God is irrelevant to that issue or this issue.

    we have been discussing - according to catholic doctrine would a Catholic have to follow this Pope's view on Global warming. the answer is no a Catholic would not. although I would note that any believer in Jesus's divinity should realize that they are to be a good stewards of the resources God gave us.

    If you ask me why I might go to Catholic church I will explain to you... you are welcome to ask if you want the answer. I will tell you, its certainly not the bishops the cardinals or the Pope.




     
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    #64     Jun 18, 2015
  5. jem

    jem

    #65     Jun 18, 2015
  6. jem

    jem

    I could be wrong... but arxiv is a repository. I believe non peer reviewed articles can still be found there. I believe I have read dozens of non peer reviewed papers from there... many were interesting.

    Nevertheless... if you have some papers which do not rely upon stale models.... link to them... I am genuinely interested in learning.
     
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    #66     Jun 18, 2015
  7. nitro

    nitro

    That is not what I asked. Let me rephrase it, if I produced a paper on the arxiv, would that pass as peered reviewed in your eyes? The reason I ask is, because:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArXiv

    So I am trying to understand what qualifies as peered reviewed in this case by you?
     
    #67     Jun 18, 2015

  8. Yes, I know and up is down and black white. Now take your meds.
     
    #68     Jun 18, 2015
  9. nitro

    nitro

    A gotcha. Well, that is the hardest question in science.

    BTW, your religious affiliation has everything to do with these debates or any other debate. I think you can understand that given the political climate we are in. For example, I state unequivocally that I do not believe in a religious God. People then know if it is worth their time trying to reason with me or not, or whether I should be their POTUS. If I tell you that I believe the Earth is 6000 years old, or that if I blow myself up killing infidels, then I will have 60 virgins that I can ravage every night in some place in the sky waiting for me, you don't think that is worth knowing before you begin a lengthy discussion with me?

    Sort of the right to face your accuser in a court of law?
     
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    #69     Jun 18, 2015
  10. nitro

    nitro

    For example, here is a random one I found on the arxiv:

    http://arxiv.org/vc/arxiv/papers/1105/1105.0968v2.pdf

    I read that paper, and I can't even begin to make some of those arguments. Can you?

    "...Global temperature change during the first half of the Cenozoic is consistent with expectations based on knowledge of plate tectonics (continental drift)..."

    Can you hit a 100MPH fast ball after seeing three off-speed pitches?
     
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    #70     Jun 18, 2015