we are arguing with children or trolls. you think that charts accounts for all the way the sun can heat the earth? are you going back to the old nutter argument that the sun has nothing to do with warming? there are so many articles and papers on this subject... here is one... that is interesting because it points out nutter don't even know how to properly model clouds... so how the hell can you blame co2? http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybe...obal-warming-its-the-sun-stupid/#59217383413e It worked! As reported in the Aug. 25 issue of the journal Nature, Jasper Kirkby and his 62 co-authors from 17 institutes in Europe and the U.S. announced that the sun indeed has a significant influence on our planet’s temperature. Their “Cosmics Leaving Outdoor Droplets” (CLOUD) experiment proved that its magnetic field does, in fact, act as a gateway for cosmic rays that play a large role in cloud formation. The report stated “Ion-induced nucleation [cosmic ray action] will manifest itself as a steady production of new particles [molecular clusters] that is difficult to isolate in atmospheric observations because of other sources of variability but is nevertheless taking place and could be quite large globally over the troposphere [the lower atmosphere].” In other words, the big influence exists, yet hasn’t been factored into climate models.
Yeah.....the temp adjustments are completely justified and scientific. You know....like scientific. Like the proper scientific method. I mean it is completely justified to adjust temperatures so that you erase a "blip" because it doesn't further your political narrative.
There is a lag!!! You honestly think that the change should happen instantaneously? It is elementary logic that there will be a lag. Here is 11 year averaged TSI and offset 11 years. As you can see, it lines up quite nicely. Yeah....but there is not correlation. It is absolutely idiotic to think that the actual source of the heat on earth has nothing to do with temperature fluctuations. It is kind of like putting a pot of water on the stove. When you turn up the heat, the water gets hotter. When you turn it down, the water in the pot gets cooler. Pretty simple. GO LONG JACKETS! It's goin get cold!
Jem, why are acting like a slimey lawyer and avoiding comment on this? And what do you think about those merchants of doubt which piezoe quite obviously is. https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome-psyapi2&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8&q=Merchants of Doubt: How a Handful of Scientists Obscured the Truth on Issues from Tobacco Smoke to Global Warming&oq=Merchants of Doubt: How a Handful of Scientists Obscured the Truth on Issues from Tobacco Smoke to Global Warming&aqs=chrome..69i57.954j0j4 How do you feel about those scientists that lied about the effects of tobacco? How many cases of lung cancer did their lying cause? I think that they are evil. You seem to be avoiding this question. Maybe you are a merchant of doubt?
You deniers just can't answer questions can you? Duh, of course it does you idiot. But it's not the cause of the current warming. Get back to us when you start publishing in peer reviewed science journals. This is the reason..