Even the Pope sides with Futurecurrents

Discussion in 'Politics' started by nitro, Jun 16, 2015.


  1. No.......no qualified scientist denies man made global warming and nearly all of them think that it is huge threat.
     
    #2241     Nov 21, 2016


  2. There is just too much bullshit here to address all at once, which of course is what you are counting on. So let's start with "a" above

    you said....

    "Is the temperature changing beyond its expected rate of change globally? Not just in the Northern Hemisphere but globally. Surface measurement says yes; satellite remote sensing says no. This discrepancy must be resolved."


    The "discrepancy" has been resolved long ago. Perhaps you have not been paying attention or don't understand the science involved.

    The lie is that satellite data and surface temp data don't match. Not only do they match, but the implication of this "question" is also a lie: that this or that little quibble about one little aspect or another of the vast corpus of data assembled by climate scientists proves that climate science isn't "real" science.

    Only someone with no understanding of science would think that this chipping at the edges proves anything--but that would describe over half the voters, in line with P.T. Barnum's famous principle "There's one born every minute."

    And of course if climate science isn't "real" science, it's too squishy to base policy on, so there's no reason to regulate the fossil fuel industry, nor to reduce its primo place at the taxpayer trough, nor to provide government support for alternate energy sources.

    In fact the satellite data comports with ground data once you factor in a bunch of things needed to made sense of the raw readings, including:
    1. Switching from MSU to AMSU
    2. Orbital decay
    3. Instrument body effectd
    4. Diurnal drift
    5. Sea ice and summer melt ponds
    6. Stratospheric biasing
    7. T2 vs. TLT

    "Satellite measurements do show warming in the Tropsphere when a cooling bias from the Stratosphere is removed. Warming trends agree well with surface temperatures and model predictions except near the Poles. Differences between various analyses are largely due to analysis techniques and compensations for satellite data issues."

    Satellite measurements of warming in the troposphere

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    So.... strike one .
     
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    #2242     Nov 21, 2016
  3. jem

    jem

    Hey argue with that article... show us some of the scientists not cnn or other bullshitters but scientists themselves showing us the science. Not them saying the IPCC says_____ but showing us real science. Lets see the science they rely upon. Surely you have some of those types of links to real science showing showing man made co2 causes warming?

    Not that co2 can cause warming but that man made co2 is causing warming. Til you do that there is essential no risk from man made co2 that can be measured. hence I am sure part of the reason it did not make the list.


     
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    #2243     Nov 21, 2016
  4. nitro

    nitro

    The Dead Sea is drying out
    By Benazir Wehelie, Special to CNN

    Story highlights
    • The Dead Sea is shrinking, and humans are largely to blame
    • Israel and Jordan signed a $900 million deal to stabilize the popular salt lake

    (CNN)Something's happening at the lowest point on our planet, some 1,388 feet below sea level.

    The Dead Sea, a salt lake nestled by Israel, Jordan and the West Bank, is shrinking at an alarming rate -- about 3.3 feet per year, according to the environmentalist group EcoPeace Middle East. And human actions are largely to blame.

    "It's not just like one country is punishing the Dead Sea; it's more like the whole region," said photographer Moritz Küstner, who visited the area in February to work on his series "The Dying Dead Sea."...

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/20/travel/cnnphotos-dead-sea-dying/?iid=ob_homepage_deskrecommended_pool
     
    #2244     Nov 21, 2016
  5. jem

    jem

    could it be because human action... diverting its water supplies away.
    Oh that is what the article says...

    were you trying to blame agw?
    why did you bold and increase the size of the letters.

    Now I would expect a troll to pretend they were not trying to blame agw.
    Are you going to be a troll nitro?



     
    #2245     Nov 21, 2016
  6. fhl

    fhl

    #2246     Nov 22, 2016
  7. fhl

    fhl

    So it all works out once you 'adjust' the satellite numbers to conform to the ground temp numbers, which themselves have also been 'adjusted' to show global warming.

    LOL

    There are more red flags in their studies than a parade in Moscow.

    Only an idiot believes this bullshit.
     
    #2247     Nov 22, 2016
  8. stu

    stu

    Walter Kaufmann and others said much the same about Special Relativity. They were physicists. You're not. Like everyone else, you're only an idiot.
     
    #2248     Nov 22, 2016
  9. fhl

    fhl


    Everyone else would certainly include you or it wouldn't be everyone. So why should I pay any attention to what an idiot like you says?
     
    #2249     Nov 22, 2016
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  10. stu

    stu

    ....because you're an idiot.
    The principles of AGW like Special Relativity is the science and Einstein wasn't the idiot.
     
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    #2250     Nov 22, 2016