Right, one can see it in the data as a scientist using careful science and lots of computing power. But it is nearly impossible for the every day person to know he is in a cold pot of water on a heating stove. Try the experiment! Put the deniers in this thread in a cold pot of water and put it on a stove. Turn the knob on the stove to boil the water, and notice how at the beginning the deniers will tell you they are all fine, until at one point they realize they are cooked!!!! We don't notice incremental changes. Only big changes. That isn't just true in GW, but true of the human condition in general.
the data shows co2 lags change in ocean temp by a year and change in air temps by 9 mos. And scientists have been peer reviewed on that.. in multiple articles. you just can wish that away. That is the data. if you could "see" agw in the data. you would publish and you would be first and you would have a nobel prize. I am totally serious... you are so full of shit about science. if you were a man of science and not a bullshitter you would produce links to the data or peer reviewed papers. do you want to know how I know you are full of shit. Because I know the best paper you have on this speculation is a paper by Shakun. He too tries to see it in the data. He shows that the warming precedes co2 after and ice age and then speculates using statistics and knowledge of the earths systems that although warming precedes co2 accumulation, eventually co2 amplifies the warming. That is speculation... but it could be correct. That is all you have... good speculation. so stop bullshiting about the data and confidence intervals. its very specious and makes you look like a clown to someone who actually reads the science papers.
And the science shows that rising CO2 levels are causing increasing temperatures. You keep passing over this and the greenhouse effect of CO2. That's why no expert in the entire world denies man made global warming. Are you like wedudtoadtoo and don't know what a greenhouse gas is? Oh, and take your meds, crazy lying boy.
Yeah, the boiling frog experiment. But it turns out that the frog will jump out before it gets too hot. We have no place to jump to. What troubles me is this faith/ideology based reasoning and intellectual stance that people like jem stake out. This propensity for some to ignore and distort reality in favor of ideology can only lead to problems. To solve a problem it first must be acknowledged that there is a problem.
The Scientist Who Cracked Iran Has a Plan for Climate Change U.S. Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz provides an inside look at the role science played in two big Obama victories. October 18, 2016 — 5:00 AM CDT Updated on October 18, 2016 — 7:49 AM CDT Share on FacebookShare on Twitter U.S. Secretary of Energy Ernest Moniz was looking up at a five-feet-tall glass cylinder filled with a turbulent milky white concoction. It was suspended several feet off the ground by a scaffold wound through with tubes and wires. Surrounding him were scientists at the Grove School of Engineering at the City College of New York in Manhattan, where they’d gathered with a commercial development engineer as part of a long-term plan to turn pollution into profits. Ernest Moniz Photographer: Andrew Harrer/Bloomberg The cylinder contained water and bubbles—oxygen bubbles. The scientists were testing just how tiny they can make them, and how uniformly they could be distributed. The goal: Building chemical reactors that swallow industrial waste gases, feed them to naturally occurring or genetically engineered microbes, and produce fuels or useful chemicals. LanzaTech, a company based in Skokie, Ill., hopes to mass-produce fuels and industrial chemicals from waste gases, including methane, carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, and hydrogen. The technology could be one tool to help people manage dangerous compounds that humanity pumps into the atmosphere. The research is funded in part by the Advanced Research Projects Agency-Energy, the arm of a cabinet department that’s seen its share of headlines over the past eight years. Nobel Physics laureate Steven Chu preceded Moniz, 71, at Energy and became a news fixture when the Deepwater Horizon oil spill in 2010 gave Americans a daily lesson in applied subaquatic petrogeology. Moniz joined the Obama administration from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology three years later, and led the agency’s contributions to the 2015 nuclear deal with Iran and Paris climate accord reached in December. In New York last week, Moniz emphasized the need to pursue long-term solutions to climate change that will stretch over many years and administrations—and the expense that will be involved. “We need to keep working on the cost,” he said. “But we also need some of these big, additional breakthroughs that are going to take a long time to scale up. That’s why we’re doing it now.” Moniz sat down with Bloomberg News to talk about the influential role science plays in diplomacy, as well as the critical role it plays in arresting global warming. Q: Where does the Iran story begin for you? ... http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ho-cracked-iran-has-a-plan-for-climate-change
any time you have peer reviewed science showing that the laggard (co2) is the cause... (change in ocean temps or change in air temps) -- you just let us know. til then you are lying your ass off about science. there is no science showing man made co2 causes warming. if you had any... you would present it and you would have a nobel prize.
You mean beyond the Heads of Climate Departments at many major American universities such as Dr. Curry and the over 30,000 scientists who signed the petition stating that man-made global warming is in no way dangerous to humans.
She has never said that and she believes in man made global warming and no expert denies it. None. Not even one. Astronauts don't count. Are you REALLY this dumb?
You are claiming that Dr. Judith Curry believes that man-made global warming is dangerous to humans. Shall we re-post her congressional testimony again.