Even the Pope sides with Futurecurrents

Discussion in 'Politics' started by nitro, Jun 16, 2015.

  1. jem

    jem

    It could be because there are fewer aerosols from volcanoes letting more sun get to the earth and causing a bit of warming on the earth. It could be for the reasons agw nutters speculate...but I doubt anyone really knows at the moment. We do know there a lots of papers with lots of opinions.
     
    #1111     Mar 14, 2016

  2. Yes, there are also a lot of dumb deluded sheeplike conservatives who like the good sheep that they are toe the party line even if it is wrong and requires lying to maintain.


    Like you.
     
    #1112     Mar 14, 2016
  3. Ricter

    Ricter

    But vastly more from human industry. We make up for what a volcano can spew in a single event with our 24/7/365 persistence. Tortoise and hare.

    Thanks for supplying an hypothesis, even if it has been thought of before.
     
    #1113     Mar 14, 2016
  4. jem

    jem

    go ahead point to the science which shows that humans impact climate more that volcanoes.

    This sounds like you really may have some science on this one. This could be your first substantive post on climate change in a very long time.

    I will post some info supporting the stratosphere is cooling because it is became more free of aerosols theory below. then you can post your links.

    I will be surprised if you have anything that discounts the strong impact aerosols seem to have, but you are welcome to try..



    http://ete.cet.edu/gcc/?/volcanoes_teacherpage/

    The gas that does have a noticeable climate impact is sulfur dioxide (SO2). Unlike greenhouse gases, SO2 cools the atmosphere. Magma contains a small amount of SO2, typically less than 10% by volume. Large eruptions thrust the SO2 into the upper atmosphere (the stratosphere) where it is transported around the planet. Contact with abundant water changes the SO2 gas into sulfuric acid (H2SO4) droplets called aerosols. Even though they are microscopic, there are billions of such aerosols following a big eruption, so that they actually affect the climate. Each aerosol absorbs some of the radiation from the Sun, and thus heats itself and the surrounding stratosphere. But each ray of Sunlight that hits an aerosol does not strike the Earth, robbing the surface of that small amount of heat. During the 1900s there were three large eruptions that caused the entire planet to cool down by as much as 1°C. Volcanic coolings persist for only 2 to 3 years because the aerosols ultimately fall out of the stratosphere and enter the lower atmosphere where rain and wind quickly disperse them.

    Although scientists understand the basic mechanism of cooling due to eruptions there are many details still to be investigated. Here are some questions for you to consider:

    • Not all volcanic eruptions seem to effect climate. What are the characteristics, other than bigness, of those that do?
    • How can geologists predict which volcanoes are likely to impact the climate when they erupt?
    • What would be the climate effect if a series of large eruptions occurred over 10 years?
    - See more at: http://ete.cet.edu/gcc/?/volcanoes_teacherpage/#sthash.MrEqRaDv.dpuf


     
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    #1114     Mar 14, 2016
  5. nitro

    nitro

    Happy Birthday, Humanity!

     
    #1115     Mar 14, 2016
  6. Ricter

    Ricter

    I didn't say climate, I said aerosols, as you did.
     
    #1116     Mar 15, 2016
  7. nitro

    nitro

    #1117     Mar 15, 2016
  8. jem

    jem

    AGW proponents argue that the reason for the pause in part was caused by aerosols.
    talk about drone/sheep fraudboy... You don't even recognize your own team's arguments.

    funny if your side was not filled with people just like you. Calling me names while I am putting forth one of your sides arguments as a possible theory. You are sort of a repugnant drone by choice aren't you? Its your nature is it not? Perhaps you need to examine your core?





     
    #1118     Mar 15, 2016
  9. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    Climate Scientist Arrested for Fraud

    Climate scientist Daniel Alongi has been indicted by the Australian government on charges of defrauding taxpayers out of $556,000 in false expenses since 2008.

    Alongi has already admitted to creating false invoices, credit card statements, and e-mails to cover his misappropriation of funds.

    Alongi’s indictment raises serious questions concerning the credibility of his research. During the period of Alongi’s alleged fraud, his research focusing on the impact of climate change on the Great Barrier Reef, coastal mangroves, and coastal ecosystems was published in numerous national and international journals.

    Meteorologist Anthony Watts said in a post on his popular climate website Watts Up With That he’s concerned Alongi may have falsified scientific findings to justify his expenses. Alongi has published 140 scientific publications and his work has been cited 5,861 times by other researchers.

    “If Alongi falsely claimed to have spent half a million dollars on radioisotope testing, it would look pretty strange if he didn’t produce any false test results, to justify the expenditure of all that money,” wrote Watts.

    http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2016/03/14/climate-scientist-arrested-fraud
     
    #1119     Mar 15, 2016

  10. Oh wow, The Fartland Institute, a right wing stink tank is lying again about man made climate change and the dumb conservative sheep like wedidtodtwo brainlessly parrot the lies. Jem, I'm surprised that you didn't post this.

    He's NOT a climate scientist.

    A senior scientist at Australia’s key research body on the Great Barrier Reef is alleged to have fabricated research expenses worth more than half a million dollars and has been arrested on fraud charges, the Australian federal police say.

    Daniel Alongi, 59, is accused of duping the taxpayer-funded Australian Institute of Marine Science (Aims) into paying him $556,508 for non-existent purchases of “radioisotopes” and laboratory analysis of reef sediment over seven years.

    http://www.theguardian.com/environm...arch-body-alleged-to-have-fabricated-expenses
     
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    #1120     Mar 15, 2016