Evangelicals Question The Existence Of Adam And Eve

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Free Thinker, Apr 11, 2012.

  1. wow, is willful ignorance fading and education winning?

    Let's go back to the beginning — all the way to Adam and Eve, and to the question: Did they exist, and did all of humanity descend from that single pair?

    According to the Bible (Genesis 2:7), this is how humanity began: "The Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." God then called the man Adam, and later created Eve from Adam's rib.

    Polls by Gallup and the Pew Research Center find that four out of 10 Americans believe this account. It's a central tenet for much of conservative Christianity, from evangelicals to confessional churches such as the Christian Reformed Church.

    But now some conservative scholars are saying publicly that they can no longer believe the Genesis account. Asked how likely it is that we all descended from Adam and Eve, Dennis Venema, a biologist at Trinity Western University, replies: "That would be against all the genomic evidence that we've assembled over the last 20 years, so not likely at all."

    Researching The Human Genome

    Venema says there is no way we can be traced back to a single couple. He says with the mapping of the human genome, it's clear that modern humans emerged from other primates as a large population

    Another one is John Schneider, who taught theology at Calvin College in Michigan until recently. He says it's time to face facts: There was no historical Adam and Eve, no serpent, no apple, no fall that toppled man from a state of innocence.
  2. You are a religious nut.
  3. We Have A Responsibility…as unbelievers, we have a responsibility to the future of our species to do whatever we can to disseminate the science and eliminate the myth.
  4. Science is dynamic.
    The science of today will be proven false by the science of tomorrow.
  5. Brass


    Science is indeed dynamic, but with an upward and forward-moving drift, with each new generation of scientists building on the work of those who preceded them.

    Religion, on the other hand, is static. It is false now, always has been and always will be.
  6. Weak minded individuals need the myth
  7. lol do you think science will someday conclude that yes its true that biblegod picked a handfull of dust and made man from it and then biblegod decided man was lonely so he put man to sleep and took a rib from man and used that to create a woman?

    do you people ever think seriously about what you believe?
  8. Wallet


    I wonder how people balance their thoughts with Genesis chapter 4, where Cain, (Adam and Eve's son) is cast out and finds a wife, and speaks of others wanting to kill him?

    The genealogy of Genesis is incomplete, we don't know if others were created, or the entire population is sprouted from Adam and Eve, all we know is Adam and Eve were the first Human's ( with a spiritual soul) created by God. The whole focus of the Genesis story is to complete the history for one family line from Adam to Abraham, the Father of the Nation of Israel,...... there are numerous other children and siblings barely mentioned let alone named, who knows who-else.

    Genesis wasn't written to be a scientific thesis on creation, in fact Genesis 1:2 can also be translated in a gap theory manner regarding time where the earth not "was" but became dark and formless and God in essence recreates the earth to support life, hence the time-line here is completely unknown.

    The origins of all and the nuances of creation are not the question or subject of the writing, they're listed to just state the fact that once there was "nothing" and obviously God spoke it into existence, creating everything......

    The focus of the Book of Genesis, and the whole Bible is to point the way for a sinful imperfect man back to reconciliation with a Righteous and Holy God.
  9. or its all just a myth passed down by ignorant superstitious men who thought thunder and lightening were god speaking.

    what is it with you religious types that you will close your mind and rationalize obvious evidence that what you believe is just wrong?

    Actually, I find no conflict here, and neither apparently do the 40 percent of working scientists who claim to be believers. Yes, evolution by descent from a common ancestor is clearly true. If there was any lingering doubt about the evidence from the fossil record, the study of DNA provides the strongest possible proof of our relatedness to all other living things. By Dr. Francis Collins
    Francis S. Collins, M.D., Ph.D., is the director of the Human Genome Project. His most recent book is "The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief." http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/03/collins.commentary/index.html
  10. Wallet


    I don't have a conflict either. I'm amazed that people who claim to be schooled and intelligent compare their so-called scientific research to Sunday School lessons that were taught and aimed at children to teach them the basic concepts of Christianity.... like it somehow verifies their findings?

    Most people have rarely held a Bible in their hands let alone actually studied it in-depth. I shake my head daily at people who constantly misquote or misinterpret the Bible, speaking as if they "know what the heck they are talking about. It happens exponentially here at ET, this thread is just another example.

    Why can't you scientific types actually study the material that you compare too............ and don't say you have, because your understand and interpretive levels of the Bible are stuck in the Sunday School lesson variety.

    Even a mental midget can look around and understand that, as complex as life is, it didn't happen by chance..... and everything had a starting point, an origin..... the blind scientist who denies the existence of God is the one who tries to invent a theory to explain what is obvious, if he would just open his eyes.

    Sorry can't help ya FT not enough time, actually feel sorry for ya..... guess it's time for Stu to chime in.

    #10     Apr 11, 2012