Eurodollar spreading

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by cdcaveman, Nov 14, 2013.

  1. So you said you can trade the TED directly through futures or something.. instead of trading Ge and t-bills against each other separately.. how do you pulll that up in IB ?
     
    #81     Nov 27, 2013
  2. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    They are implied spreads. Best executed through TT or CQG, not IB. Although IB might be able to do it, not completely sure.

    Here is a good video on the TED spread.

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/mhTXNLwcpOk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
    #82     Nov 27, 2013



  3. Just was discussing this with my father... How are t-bills a measure of the willingness of the gov to lend... When they are an instrument of borrowing money.

    I'll watch. I'm reading/watching everything everyone is posting.. This place is something I am extremely grateful for... Haaplu thankgiving
     
    #83     Nov 27, 2013
  4. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    QE? During a crisis the FED is "buying" securities or "lending" capital to the market. Or you could call it "providing liquidity". Pick your position. I should have said Fed vs gov't but same thing to me. In a panic, the "Fed" is essentially lowering rates while corporates are raising them. Hence the spread "widens".
     
    #84     Nov 27, 2013
  5. So obviously you could say pic March Eurodollars against 3 month t-bill futures.. There is obviously different pricing through the term strucutre.. you pick say jan14 GE against jan14 GTB , whats the difference.. whats the term structure risk against the other term structure risk
     
    #85     Nov 29, 2013
  6. There's a few differences...

    Firstly, the Jan14 t-bill matures in Jan2014, whereas the Jan14 ED contract settles to the 3m LIBOR fixing on 13Jan2014 (so the rate covers the 15Jan14-15Apr14 period).

    Secondly, there's a spread between the two markets. A decent, albeit imperfect, proxy for this is the difference between LIBOR and FF rates.
     
    #86     Dec 2, 2013
  7. So I don't get how to build a quote in IB
     
    #87     Dec 2, 2013
  8. What are you referring to FF rates
     
    #88     Dec 2, 2013
  9. So do you build it with jan Tbills against Apr Eurodollars..
     
    #89     Dec 2, 2013
  10. Fed Funds effective rate, in this case.
    Nah, it's sorta complicated when you're this close to home and it's hard to find Eurodollar contracts with sufficient granularity. The most natural futures to trade the t-bills against would be FedFunds, as they lend themselves much more readily to this.
     
    #90     Dec 2, 2013