Eurodollar spreading

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by cdcaveman, Nov 14, 2013.

  1. Legging in and out of fly's and condors is no joke.. Always be willing to take the risk of the naked leg if you do it... I typically keep inventory.. So I'm always in and out of something
     
    #71     Nov 26, 2013
  2. It's difficult for me to imagine why I would ever wanna do it. This is, essentially, a weighted condor and I honestly can't think of a good reason off the top of my head to do something like this. In general, the utility of these fanciful structures diminishes once you get past 3 legs, IMHO. I have done ED condors a few times and a spread of flies once, but that's about it.
     
    #72     Nov 26, 2013
  3. #73     Nov 27, 2013
  4. bone's the man for those condor moments ..
     
    #74     Nov 27, 2013
  5. Condors are just wide butterflies really... You can't get a fill on the entire structure at once... So unlike fly's you can't just leave a lot of limit orders out to provide liquidity to one side of the market... The wider the structure the more variance... So condors are a riskier play..... Sometimes you want the risk... Why put 5 fly's on when you can put one condor and get the sane risk... Unless you are trade specific part of the curve which dictates a fly
     
    #75     Nov 27, 2013
  6. Really? According to the CME's 2011 Guide:

    "In addition to Packs and Bundles, eight other popular combination strategies are standardized on CME Globex, permitting market participants to transact them directly in spread form, instead of having to leg into or out of them. These include calendar spreads, butterflies, double butterflies, condors, ..."

    Seems as if condor is a recognized user-defined spread. No doubt someone here can confirm
     
    #76     Nov 27, 2013
  7. Oops... For Eurodollars...yes.. For CL no...I don't trade GE.. This is all research
     
    #77     Nov 27, 2013
  8. The best source (apart from the uber-generous Martinghoul) I can point you to given what you've asked so far is Stephen Aikin's work
     
    #78     Nov 27, 2013
  9. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    I have Aikin's book and agree, it's a good read. Especially for stir prop traders.
     
    #79     Nov 27, 2013
  10. Yeah, condors (and the more funky stuff) are tradable, just like regular flies.

    And yes, Aikin is sort of a STIRs bible.
     
    #80     Nov 27, 2013