Eurodollar spreading

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by cdcaveman, Nov 14, 2013.

  1. yeah, I get it.. I don't know why i thought i'd be making a levered interest rate through the futures.. Its all a future bet on terminal spot when buying the individuals..
     
    #161     Dec 28, 2013
  2. Option trader here. I recently read Aikin and just started Burgdhart's ED handbook (thanks to this thread). I was excited to trade STIRS, since Aikin made them sound so appealing. But I am disappointed to learn that this genre is ill-suited to retail (particularly retail trying to make a living). I have enjoyed studying this and planned to continue a great deal, but if I understand correctly, perhaps my time is better spent focusing on options. Obviously there are different viewpoints in this thread, could it be that STIRs are a great product in Europe, but unideal for most in America?
     
    #162     Dec 29, 2013
  3. Short term interest rate trades aren't necessarily European..

    You can make money trading Stirs.. It broadens your understanding of the market.. Which is edge in itself.! Plus its a low vol trading style
     
    #163     Dec 29, 2013
  4. it's not whether they're european/american (euribor/eurodollar), it's the location where you can have success trading them. seems like in america that unless you work at a reputable prop firm, it is not advantageous to trade them. however in europe, it seems that retail has a much better chance of success.
     
    #164     Dec 29, 2013
  5. You can trade all the liffe exchange products in america just like anyone in europe
     
    #165     Dec 29, 2013
  6. It depends on your style, really... To be able to do the full array of stuff, you do need access to some prop-like tools, in Europe or US. If you just wanna do very basic things, you can do them in a retail context.
     
    #166     Dec 30, 2013
  7. Name something basic if you could
     
    #167     Dec 30, 2013
  8. Well, let's say you believe Bill Gross and you're convinced that rates won't rise until 2016 or smth... You could just buy, I dunno, some Sep15 contracts and hold them until Sep 2015. Or something similar with FedFunds, which would be cleaner.
     
    #168     Dec 30, 2013
  9. What's the trade for once the rates do go up
     
    #169     Dec 30, 2013
  10. That's a bit harder, given what's priced in. There are things you could do in options, I suppose, but there's definitely going to be more risks and complications with those.
     
    #170     Dec 30, 2013