EUR/CHF wipeout/margin call ... negative balance ... what to do?

Discussion in 'Forex' started by Pentaquark, Jan 18, 2015.

  1. Holy cow....anyone know what the slippage was like on the currency futures? I haven't heard much about those contracts.
     
    #21     Jan 18, 2015
  2. Agreed. I would contact IB and they will work with you if you show good faith towards the situation. Sorry for your loss.
     
    #22     Jan 18, 2015
  3. loyek590

    loyek590

    someone on another thread said he couldn't get a quote on the futures
     
    #23     Jan 18, 2015
  4. This is CHF future (USD.CHF) from IB charts

    upload_2015-1-18_9-5-59.png

    Anyone has tick chart. So the announcement was made around 2.30 time. Then someone out there decide to run all the stops because they have information everyone is shorting CHF.

    Other pairs got hit is strange, NZD/CHF, USD/CHF. Unfortunately, there is no circuit breaker in Forex like DOW, Nasdaq.
     
    #24     Jan 18, 2015
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  5. TraDaToR

    TraDaToR

    Is the amount you allegedly owe to IB meaningful compared to your net Worth? Is it a threat to your family's finance?

    I feel for you, man. Anybody should be in your boots here. Newbies but seasoned veterans as well. Stay strong.
     
    #25     Jan 18, 2015
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  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    You are correct, they are not. You can claim them as a loss on income, as long as you did not opt in at the beginning of the year to treat gains as capital gains (not income).

    I have personally claimed losses against income, been audited, and won the audit (The IRS didn't even understand their own law). Look up IRC 988.

    This applies to SPOT forex, not futures.
     
    #26     Jan 18, 2015
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  7. Zzoom

    Zzoom

    Times in GMT, ET+5hrs.

    6S ##-## (1 Tick)  15_01_2015.jpg
     
    #27     Jan 18, 2015
  8. Visaria

    Visaria

    Thanks for charts, chaps. I was contemplating shorting either swiss or euro against the dollar (futures) the evening before. Thankfully did not do the swiss (didn't do the the euro either which would have worked well!). From the above charts, i reckon i would have lost only 2%-3% (i tend to avoid leverage) of my fund in slippage, so would not have been catastrophic.
     
    #28     Jan 18, 2015
  9. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    There was literally no orders until serveral 1000nd of pips later, no sellers so the price just ran straight to the first available order being hugely up there, it's a stupid way for a market to trade really. Not trading inbetween means your SL's go to market order, which means loads of buyers pushing it higher via market orders.


    Hopefully they'll come up with a compromise, go 50/50 or something with you, in order to get some money back ??

    No doubt they'll be working on it all weekend and Monday morning some time is going to suck.
     
    #29     Jan 18, 2015
  10. Trader13

    Trader13

    OandA is forgiving its customers negative balances. They must be a dealer (aka, bucket shop) and these neg balances were just paper losses for them since they were the counterparty to the trades. So this was a good business decision on their part if they would have a hard time collecting anyway. And now they keep some of these customers who will continue to pay bid/ask spreads on future trades.

    http://www.forexlive.com/blog/2015/01/16/oanda-wins-points-for-quickly-forgiving-negative-balances/
     
    #30     Jan 18, 2015
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