I am interested in others take on questions I have: 1) Has the carrying capacity of the earth in regards to human population already been reached? ( I know there is no certain way to answer this, but I am interested in others views) If not, when will it be reached. Earth is a closed system, how many more people can it hold before resources available cannot keep up (food, water,energy) and the only possible solution is 1) mass depopulation or 2) mass economic destruction to reverse growth. 2)Have the limits of economic growth been reached under our current economic reliability on oil. This is not a question of peak oil but a question of peak economic growth in relation to how much energy is available currently and within the forseeable future. Is this a possibility for the underlying reason for the large sell-off of most markets in the recent past? Obviously not cheery subjects, but they are a reality nonetheless. I am curious on others take on these issues. I am not here to argue others points, only to realize what other possibilities there are. Thank you for your time and consideration. peace..