ES vs NQ

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by traderwald, Aug 10, 2018.

  1. treeman

    treeman

    I prefer the NQ because it out performs the ES on a relative basis and we are in a bull market you know.
     
    #21     Sep 1, 2018
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  2. Howard

    Howard

  3. Howard

    Howard

    The three indices on a selected day a few weeks back. I don't see any significant differences.

    I won't argue anyone else's choice of instrument, but I've seen comments (in other threads) about how superior NQ/YM is to ES and it seems to me to be a bit exaggerated.
     
    #23     Sep 2, 2018
  4. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks

    You are doing a visual compare. That shows you correlation, but not the money potential.
    In the case of futures, that requires the specifications such as tic increment and tic value.

    Using your charts, and 2 eyeballs to *approximate* the high and low price on each chart, I come up with this...

    YM 25755-25610, 145 tics/145pts, $5/tic = $725
    NQ 7471-7419, 208 tics/52pts, $5/tic = $1040
    ES 2869-2857, 48 tics/12pts, $12.5/tic = $600

    IMO, NQ handily "wins" using your example, when looking at money potential trading opportunity. I happen to think it is "easier" to pick off say $100 bucks from a range worth say $1000, than it is to pick off the same $100 bucks from a range worth say $500. jmo.
     
    #24     Sep 2, 2018
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  5. treeman

    treeman

    All you have to do is look at ytd performance of each. It’s not even close.
     
    #25     Sep 2, 2018
  6. They

    They

    ES vs NQ really depends on the type of trading and the size.
     
    #26     Sep 2, 2018
  7. destriero

    destriero


    Thanks, Xela. I appreciate it! I am going to ruminate on this for a week or two.
     
    #27     Sep 2, 2018
  8. Overnight

    Overnight

    For the record, I like this post 1+∞
     
    #28     Sep 2, 2018
  9. treeman

    treeman

    Yeah, tiddy is no joke.
     
    #29     Sep 2, 2018
  10. Howard

    Howard

    Sure, it's a visual comparison, but still illustrative since the price action (swings and turning points) is similar.

    More precise numbers on that specific day:

    YM = 161 points = 805 $
    NQ = 63 points = 1260 $
    ES = 15,25 points = 762,5 $

    I have never argued that NQ isn't less volatile, but in terms of trading instruments, it seems like an exaggeration when people are bashing the ES in comparsion seeing how they move similarly a lot of the time.
     
    #30     Sep 2, 2018