ES Volume Leads Price

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by Joe Doaks, Apr 5, 2007.

  1. Thank you for the thoughtful reply, but I am neither thinking nor trading on that scale. I am merely attempting to reverse the industrial revolution in the sense that I want to be my own little cottage industry, metaphorically cobbling a single pair of shoes each day. I have neither the time nor inclination to read as widely as you do. My reading is rather simple: the tape, or more exactly, visual and sonic representations of it. I was in an NQ trade the other day which stopped in its tracks with no discernible reason that I could ever find: no fib, no intraday S/R, no long term S/R, no clear SCT pattern, no extraordinary dynamics, no news, it just fucking reversed. Seeking subtle cues to understanding and acting on such events is what I spend what little intellectual horsepower I have left on. Sorry, Jack, I tried. You are in a different world, which must work for you. I prefer to be the mouse which outwits the trap to get the cheese when no one is looking.
     
    #121     Apr 8, 2007
  2. All those patterns are simply shadows of bars 7-9 times higher in time frame.

    Head and Shoulders are pivots
    Flags/pennants are Inside bars
    Double tops, bottoms are two bars with same highs/lows
    Expanding tops are an outside bar or bars
    Triangles are pivots with an inside bar.

    If you see a pattern change to the time to 7, 8 9 times longer and see what I mean.

    John
     
    #122     Apr 8, 2007
  3. Of course and this is why these fractals are not used for making money or the application of algorithms to serve making money.
     
    #123     Apr 8, 2007
  4. bighog

    bighog Guest

    Joe Doaks

    KISS............Even Art Cashin, the guy on CNBC says: "We all know it is the second mouse that gets the cheese"

    KISS, works, let others think they can reinvent the wheel and drive themselves goofy trying to win a game of probability with useless acronyms they are just what we all know as regular technical analysis.

    Why use acronyms for others copy writed material that has been around for over a 100 years? .. :eek:
     
    #124     Apr 9, 2007
  5. Don't think they are fractals. Fractals are identical patterns. These common patterns in any time frame are coincidental and stem from larger time frames.

    John
     
    #125     Apr 9, 2007
  6. As we French traders say, they are "frottales", not fractals.
     
    #126     Apr 9, 2007
  7. Joe Doaks:

    Construct a Tick chart using equivolume ticks with a bid & ask plot. You will see a lot that defies explanation...:)
     
    #127     Apr 9, 2007
  8. I was the subject of much ridicule by the forces of anti-CO when I propounded an alternative vision of "volume leads price". At 11:40 PT today I was vindicated. See the green vertical line on the attachment.
     
    #128     Apr 16, 2007
  9. Do the work, Jack.
     
    #129     Apr 17, 2007
  10. mjh

    mjh

    Hey...frotalle this!
     
    #130     Apr 17, 2007