ES Journal - 2021/2022

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Buy1Sell2, Dec 15, 2020.

  1. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Here is what I mean when I say that ES/SP is a "long only" market. This is a picture of what has happened since 1971---
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    #5681     Mar 12, 2022
  2. Overnight

    Overnight

    I believe there is an actual sound for that chart. Hmm.



    It takes a bit of mind-work to hear it and interpolate, but it is there.
     
    #5682     Mar 12, 2022
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  3. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    On the other hand, here is a chart of European Currency versus the USD from 1976 to present--
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    #5683     Mar 12, 2022
  4. Overnight

    Overnight

    There is a sound for that also, but I promised Baron I would engage in less clutter with my silly this year. It was a New Year's resolution promise to him, heh. *grumble*
     
    #5684     Mar 12, 2022
  5. savoir

    savoir

    ES is a futures contract. I.e., there are two counter parties for every transaction, a long and a short. To call ES a “long only” market is to not understand what a futures contract is. In addition, it expires every quarter. Putting up a chart of something or other from 1971 is to, again, misunderstand the function of a futures contract.

    Trading futures is a zero-sum game. The winners’ profits come from the losers’ losses. Most people are losers. They are losers because they do not think and act as the winners do.

    It is important to me that people think as BuySell does. I expect to be trading at least another 20 years.
     
    #5685     Mar 13, 2022
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  6. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    I think you misunderstand what I am getting at. Also, for clarification, that is not a futures chart. It is the cash chart.
     
    #5686     Mar 13, 2022
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  7. I think it's undisputable that historically the long term trend is up and that there's a natural updrift to the stock market indices over time. I just don't agree with the characterization of "long only" as it's clearly a market that swings both ways.
     
    #5687     Mar 13, 2022
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  8. March 2000 to October 2002 (31 months) - a 50 % correction on SPX.

    October 2007 to March 2009 (17 months) - a 58 % correction on SPX.

    I'm not sure anyone is saying the market is going to permanently correct. Historically, every correction on SPX have been just that. A correction.

    Between March 2000 and March 2013 the market was moving sideways in one large trading range not really going anywhere. So, that's 13 years to break even if you held index funds.

    It was the start of QE in 2010 which really got the stock market moving in this incredible up trend we've seen over the last 12 years. No doubt there's a lot of political interest in keeping the stock market rising, but with raging inflation in the market I'm not sure if the FED and the government can keep supporting the market much longer.
     
    #5688     Mar 13, 2022
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  9. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Here is a chart of the S and P from 1872 onward, but not totally to today's date. As one can see, S and P is a "long-only" market. Are there shorting opportunites? Certainly there are but they are typically short lived and the overall bias is long.

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    #5689     Mar 13, 2022
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  10. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Here's the question that needs to be asked with regard to whether SP is a "long-only" market----"Can I short and hold over the long term and expect to make a profit?"----The answer is apparent.
     
    #5690     Mar 13, 2022