ES Journal - 2019/2020

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  1. Long time, no speak, old friend!

    I don't think there is fixed limit price up in RTH. It's calculated as 5 % based on the closing price at 3 pm. So, in practice, it's probably not a likely level to be hit to the upside.

    From 3:00 p.m. until the end of the current trading day at 4:00 p.m., CT there is a hard upside and downside limit of 5% based on the 3:00 p.m. reference price. The downside price limit, however, is either 5% below the 3:00 p.m. reference price OR the 20% price limit that applied before 3:00 p.m., whichever is closer to the 3 p.m. price.

    https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/equity-index/faq-sp-500-price-limits.html
     
    #16431     Mar 24, 2020
  2. This was a great tell we wouldn't take out the current HOD in ES. If ES is attempting to break out, but NQ is well below its HOD, it's usually not a good sign.
     
    #16432     Mar 24, 2020
  3. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    What happened to the limit up when the Dow reached +7%? Or they only work when the market is falling? Futures locked up, but not the regular trading hours?
     
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    #16433     Mar 24, 2020
  4. See link above.

    +/- 5 % in ETH.

    During RTH, it's only - 7, - 13 and - 20 % down.

    The upside limit in RTH is a bit different, it seems.
     
    #16434     Mar 24, 2020
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  5. Picaso

    Picaso

    True, long time, J. Good to see you're still trading.

    Thank you for the info, I somehow thought it was 5, 8 and 13%, both ways.

    Haven't traded in a while, so I'm looking at the size on the bid/ask and wow, it's like 1/10th of what I remember; is this because orders are so spread out due to the volatility (but overall daily volume stays about the same) or volume is really this low?
     
    #16435     Mar 24, 2020
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  6. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks

    Correct. in RTH there is no limit up... only limit down: -7, -13, -20

    ETH 5% applies to both up and down.

    All levels, ETH and RTH are based off the same reference price, which changes each day.
     
    #16436     Mar 24, 2020
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  7. Are you considering getting back into the game then, J? :)

    Truth be told - I don't really follow volume and certainly not in the detail you're suggesting. Maybe someone else can answer better or maybe even make a thread on it.

    Today is a quite slow day compared to prior days in the recent market turmoil.

    When you say size on the bid/ask - are you referring to resting orders in the orderbook?
     
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    #16437     Mar 24, 2020
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  8. Picaso

    Picaso

    Yes, that's the idea. :)

    I mean the size in the ladder (I seem to recall it used to be in the hundreds, not tens):
    upload_2020-3-24_16-32-43.png
     
    #16438     Mar 24, 2020
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  9. speedo

    speedo

    Levels are definitely thinner.
     
    #16439     Mar 24, 2020
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  10. That does look very thin, yes.
     
    #16440     Mar 24, 2020
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