have to have been using them for awhile to know that,pattern haters not knowing that would use it as reason to not use them,just like all things, you have toget experience under your belt
Good point about experience. Even after I started making money on aggregate basis in ES, I used to lose a lot of money on days like today. Its only recently that I have learned to recognize these days and have stopped bleeding massively on these days. Still I manage to lose 3-5 points on days like today - earlier used to be 10-15 points.