nitro, Yes, I trade all kinds of random systems. I constsantly test all kinds of variations. When I am not seeing the market well, I fall back on random systems. Random beats the heck out of bad trading, when you are doing everything exactly wrong. Random trading gets me back to equal, then all that is needed is a very tiny read to get an edge over random. They are not technically random systems. I have one that buys the next lower even number and sells the next higher odd number. I can hit 50% with that one with 2 pt targets and stops. It is a relatively minor adjustment to cut a loss a little short and let a profit run. It takes very little skill to read the market to tip the odds slightly in the traders favor if he knows what he can do with a coin toss.