"Epic Climate Model Failure"

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by futurecurrents, Jun 13, 2013.

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  2. I'm surprised at least one of the resident moron deniers has not commented on this "epic model failure."
     
  3. jem

    jem

    1. your top charts confirms your models failures...
    Those models predicted warming to coincide with increasing co2.

    you can eyeball how badly the models fail by realize temperature has traveled liked the constant co2 line. Instead of the lines predicted by the models far above.

    2. your models were not making ocean temps predictions.
    and as I have told you as oceans warm they release co2 and when they cool they eat co2. there is no one saying co2 causes oceans to warm. so you have a does the chicken follow the chicken problem or does the egg follow the egg problem. So your chart is irrelevant to showing a problem with man made co2.

    3. The data on your third chart is old. Otherwise, it would be showing the temperature turning down again... as it has in recent years.

    Also note... there is no discernable warming outside natural variability. You might want to see what the MET says about the statistical tests they have run on the DATA to British Parliament.

    That chart you present really does not show much temperature change relative to long term chart we have gone up less than a degree off a low point. We cycled like this many times in the past.
     
  4. You are amazing...ly deceptive and a great liar. Good lawyering. Results over truth.
     
  5. Ricter

    Ricter

    I've never really believed he's a lawyer, unless he's a "forms lawyer". His English and reasoning skills are atrocious, and even if his bachelor was in engineering or some other calculator profession, he'd have to be better with the language and logic to get through law school.
     


  6. More "hide the decline" charts?

    The models did not work. The temperature declined over the last ten years and that was what precipitated the need to change the theory from 'global warming' to 'climate change'.

    Of course you know this, and the only conclusion one can draw is that you and the truth are not related to one another.

    And of course the next falsehood is that anyone who denies global warming also denies 'climate change'. There is not anyone who denies climate change. The hidden fact is that you people believe that if we bestow enough money and power upon you, that you can 'stop the climate from changing'. Is there really anyone dumb enough to believe that?
     
  7. pspr

    pspr

    As a moron, what makes you think you know anything about judging other people's occupational abilities?

    You analysis of everything you ever talk about and the same is to be expect of you judgment of anyone here.

    Just go back into your barn and milk a cow or clean up some manure or something, Rectum.
     
  8. Ricter

    Ricter

    We readily accept that terrorists aren't "in it for the money", that they're ideologically driven, so why don't we consider the possibility that scientists are also ideologically (Science) driven?
     
  9. Ricter

    Ricter

    Global warming has not stalled, insists world's best-known climate scientist
    Prof James Hansen warns public not to be fooled by 'diversionary tactic' from deniers

    Damian Carrington
    guardian.co.uk, Friday 17 May 2013 13.50 BST

    "Suggestions that global warming has stalled are a "diversionary tactic" from "deniers" who want the public to be confused over climate change, according to the world's best-known climate scientist. Prof James Hansen, who first alerted the world to climate change in 1988, said on Friday: "It is not true that the temperature has not changed in the two decades."

    "Since 1998, when the Niño climate phenomenon caused global temperatures to soar, the rate of increase in warming has slowed, causing some sceptics to suggest climate change has stopped or that the effect of rising carbon dioxide levels on climate is not as great as previously thought.

    Prof Hansen, speaking to BBC Radio 4's Today programme, rejected both arguments. "In the last decade it has warmed only a tenth of a degree compared to two-tenths of a degree in the preceeding decade, but that's just natural variability. There is no reason to be surprised by that at all," he said. "If you look over a 30-40 year period the expected warming is two-tenths of a degree per decade, but that doesn't mean each decade is going to warm two-tenths of a degree: there is too much natural variability."

    "Prof Hansen said the focus by some on "details" was a smokescreen. "This is a diversionary tactic. Our understanding of global warming and human-made climate change has not been affected at all," he said. "It's because the deniers [of the science] want the public to be confused. They raise these minor issues and then we forget about what the main story is. The main story is carbon dioxide is going up and it is going to produce a climate which is going to have dramatic changes if we don't begin to reduce our emissions." In 2008, scientists anticipated an upcoming slowing in temperature rises.

    "Prof Hansen, who recently stepped down from his Nasa post after almost 50 years to focus on communication, said the forecast impact of climate change was little affected by the recent slowdown in the rate of rising temperatures.

    "Climate is a complicated system but there is no change at all in our understanding of climate sensitivity [to carbon dioxide] and where the climate is headed," he said. "Our understanding of sensitivity is based on the Earth's history, not on climate models, and we have good data on how the Earth responded in the past when carbon dioxide changed. So there is no reason to change the forecast for the long term." On 9 May, a new study of lake sediments from a remote meteorite crater in Siberia showed temperatures in the region were 8C higher the last time CO2 levels were as high as they are today. Last week, atmospheric CO2 concentrations reached the milestone 400 parts per million, for the first time in millions of years.

    "Prof Hansen has caused controversy in the past with statements including "CEOs of fossil fuel companies should be tried for high crimes against humanity and nature" and the assertion that "coal-fired power plants are factories of death".
     
  10. pspr

    pspr

    All the AGW Alarmist scientists and people like Al Gore are exactly that.

    We've been telling you this for years, you dumbass!
     
    #10     Jun 14, 2013