So millions and millions and millions of people still out of work and it seems they aren't going to find a job anytime soon with the way employers are now looking at the situation. I think this is getting to be a pretty sad and pathetic society that someone now out of work for more than 6 months will now find it extremely difficult to find a job as employers are only looking for employees who have had a steady work record. Just seems a bit unfair as this economy falls apart that now someone who is unemployed for longer than 6 months is now finding it harder than ever before to now find a job, any job! Help-Wanted Sign Comes With Frustrating Asterisk The New York Times | July 26, 2011 | 11:16 AM EDT The unemployed need not apply. That is the message being broadcast by many of the nationâs employers, making it even more difficult for 14 million jobless Americans to get back to work. A recent review of job vacancy postings on popular sites like Monster.com, CareerBuilder and Craigslist revealed hundreds that said employers would consider (or at least âstrongly preferâ) only people currently employed or just recently laid off. Unemployed workers have long suspected that the gaping holes on their résumés left them less attractive to employers. But with the country in the worst jobs crisis since the Great Depression, many had hoped employers would be more forgiving. âI feel like I am being shunned by our entire society,â said Kelly Wiedemer, 45, an information technology operations analyst who said a recruiter had told her that despite her skill set she would be a âhard sellâ because she had been out of work for more than six months. Legal experts say that the practice probably does not violate discrimination laws because unemployment is not a protected status, like age or race. The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission recently held a hearing, though, on whether discriminating against the jobless might be illegal because it disproportionately hurts older people and blacks. The practice is common enough that New Jersey recently passed a law outlawing job ads that bar unemployed workers from applying. New York and Michigan are considering the idea, and similar legislation has been introduced in Congress. The National Employment Law Project, a nonprofit organization that studies the labor market and helps the unemployed apply for benefits, has been reviewing the issue, and last week issued a report that has nudged more politicians to condemn these ads. Given that the average duration of unemployment today is nine months â a record high â limiting a search to the ârecently employed,â much less the currently employed, disqualifies millions. The positions advertised with preferences for the already-employed run the gamut. Some are for small businesses, and others for giants, including the commercial University of Phoenix (which, like some other companies, removed the ads after an inquiry by The New York Times) or the fast-food chain Pollo Tropical. They cover jobs at all skill levels, including hotel concierges, restaurant managers, teachers, I.T. specialists, business analysts, sales directors, account executives, orthopedics device salesmen, auditors and air-conditioning technicians. âIt is really a buyerâs market for employers right now,â said Harry J. Holzer, an economist at Georgetown University and the Urban Institute. One consequence is that the long-term unemployed will rack up even more weeks of unemployment, Mr. Holzer said, and will find it harder to make the transition back to work. Even if Congress passed a measure forbidding companies from making current employment a requirement for job applicants, companies could still simply decide not to hire people who are out of work. Discrimination would be difficult to prove. After all, there are legitimate reasons that many long-term unemployed workers may not be desirable job candidates. In some cases they may have been let go early in the recession, not just because business had slowed, but because they were incompetent. Idle workersâ skills may atrophy, particularly in dynamic industries like technology. They may lose touch with their network of contacts, which is important for people in sales. Beaten down by months of rejection and idleness, they may not interview well or easily return to a 9-to-5 schedule. âWe may be seeing whatâs called statistical discrimination,â said Robert Shimer, a labor economist at the University of Chicago. âOn average, these workers might be less attractive, and employers donât bother to look more closely to pick out the good ones.â Employers receive so many applications for each opening that some may use current employment status as an easy filter. In some cases â as with Ms. Wiedemer, of Westminster, Colo. â recruiters merely assume employers do not want jobless workers. âClients donât always tell us âwe donât want to see résumés from unemployed workers,â but we can sense from what people have interested them in the past that theyâre probably looking for somebody whoâs gainfully employed, whoâs closer to the action,â said Dennis Pradarelli, a talent acquisition manager for Marbl, a recruiting firm in Brookfield, Wis. Many of the job ads posted by his firm seek workers who are âcurrently employed or only recently unemployed.â Many firms that are not intentionally screening out the unemployed may still disqualify such applicants for having bad credit histories after having fallen behind on the bills â which they of course need a job to pay. Itâs not clear what can be done to pull workers out of this unemployment trap. Government incentives for companies to hire unemployed workers have met with limited success. One such tax incentive from last year was poorly publicized, so most employers did not know about it. Better publicity may not suffice, either. An experiment from the 1980s found that telling companies that the unemployed were eligible for generous wage subsidies actually made employers less likely to hire such workers. Job counselors often encourage the long-term unemployed to go back to school or volunteer to demonstrate that they are still productive, engaged members of society. But absent the actual acquisition of marketable skills â which many retraining programs do not provide â itâs not clear such efforts improve the chances of being hired. âMentally, it may be good for the candidate, but I think companies are still in a position to say âO.K., weâre looking for a candidate with the most up-to-date skills,â â Mr. Pradarelli said. âIf youâve been out of pocket for two years, going back to school sounds nice, but it doesnât make or break the situation.â The best solution, economists say, would be to encourage job growth more broadly, which may initially involve poaching people from other companies but could eventually draw even the least desirable workers back into jobs. During the boom years of the late â90s, the labor market was so tight that ex-convicts had relatively little trouble finding work. In the meantime, people like Ms. Wiedemer â who has been out of work for three years â are exhausting their benefits and piecing together what support they can from food stamps and family members. And they are stuck hoping that economic growth manages to outpace their own descent into permanent economic exile. âI worry that unemployment may eventually come down, not because older workers who have been unemployed for a year or two find jobs,â Professor Shimer said, âbut because older workers finally give up and drop out of the labor force.â
If you have two candidates for one job, which do you think is better? The guy who's been sitting on the couch in front of the TV for 2 years or the guy who already has a job and wants to move up?
some legislator is trying to help his fellow lawyers by trying to introduce a bill that not hiring the long term unemployed is a discriminatory practice. some country the US is coming to.
Bad legislation. You cannot force employers to hire unemployed candidates. This displaces the other job seekers. Better to try to create overall demand for jobs. Easier said than done. No easy solutions. You could displace all machines and require manual labor, but that would lower standard of living for all.
1. Dramatically slash taxes. 2. Dramatically reduce regulatory burdens 3. Dramatically reduce the cost of hiring/employing So that employers WANT to and CAN compete world wide while domiciled in the USA. The Odumbo Administration will have none of this. Therefore, AMERICA IS DOOMED!
Couch guy is hungry for a j.o.b. and will work harder and go the extra mile. Move up guy is a prick and statistically works less and expects more. I've hired both types; the couch guys always outshine. The article is bs.
The other day someone on the street asked me if I wanted a job collecting signatures, just out of the blue and not even knowing me. I said no, I'm not looking for a job, but after talking to him and finding out he gets about $3.65 for every person that signs his 3 clipboards, It made me think, getting just 1 person every 5 minutes to sign and thats over $43 per hour. Thats a pretty good wage for the average person. But then again, to hit those numbers, you actually have to talk to people and cant just sit there like a lump which is probably why most people dont like to do that sort of stuff. Plus people like to know what they are getting every hour. Most people would rather get a wage set in stone of $15 per hour than make a "possible" $40 per hour.