empirical evidence that homophobia can result from the suppression of same-sex desire

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Free Thinker, May 2, 2012.

  1. Ricter

    Ricter

    This kind of thing falls under, "the lady doth protest too much, methinks."
     
    #31     May 2, 2012
  2. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Shouldn't you be obsessing about the right wing in your home country of Canada? Your silly remarks are certainly not having any affect here.
     
    #32     May 2, 2012
  3. there is no doubt that some of the more vocal antigay preachers are suppressing urges. it has happened too many times to be a coincedence.

    this is nothing new. one of the biggest homophobes in the bible was probably gay:



    Was the Apostle Paul Gay?
    What accounts for Paul's self-judging rhetoric, his negative feeling toward his own body? An Episcopal bishop mulls the issues.
    BY: John Shelby Spong


    What were these passions? There is no doubt in my mind that they were sexual in nature, but what kind of sexual passions were they? Searching once again through the writings of Paul, some conclusions begin to emerge that startle and surprise the reader. Paul's passions seemed to be incapable of being relieved. Why was that? Paul himself had written that if one "could not exercise self-control" that person should marry. "For it is better to marry than to be aflame with passion" (1 Cor. 7:9). But we have no evidence from any source that Paul ever married. Indeed, he exhorts widows and the unmarried to "remain single as I do" (1 Cor. 7:8). A primary purpose of sexual activity in marriage, according to Paul, was to keep Satan from tempting people "through lack of self-control" (1 Cor. 7:5). Why, when Paul seemed to be so consumed with a passion he could not control, would he not take his own advice and alleviate that passion in marriage? He did write that marriage was an acceptable, if not ideal, way of life. Still, however, marriage never seemed to loom for him as a possibility.

    Paul has been perceived as basically negative toward women. He did write that "it is well for a man not to touch a woman" (1 Cor. 7:1). The passion that burned so deeply in Paul did not seem to be related to the desire for union with a woman. Why would that desire create such negativity in Paul, anyway? Marriage, married love, and married sexual desire were not thought to be evil or loathsome. Paul's sexual passions do not fit comfortably into this explanatory pattern. But what does?

    Obviously there is no way to know for certain the cause of Paul's anxiety prior to that moment of final revelation in the Kingdom of Heaven. But that does not stop speculation. The value of speculation in this case comes when a theory is tested by assuming for a moment that it is correct and then reading Paul in the light of that theory. Sometimes one finds in this way the key that unlocks the hidden messages that are present in the text. Once unlocked, these messages not only cease to be hidden but they become obvious, glaring at the reader, who wonders why such obvious meanings had not been seen before.

    Some have suggested that that Paul was plagued by homosexual fears. This is not a new idea, and yet until recent years, when homosexuality began to shed some of its negative connotations, it was an idea so repulsive to Christian people that it could not be breathed in official circles. This is not to say that our cultural homophobia has disappeared. It is still lethal and dwells in high places in the life of the Christian church, and it is a subject about which ecclesiastical figures are deeply dishonest, saying one thing publicly and acting another way privately. The prejudice, however, is fading slowly but surely. With the softening of that homophobic stance we might consider the hypothesis that Paul may have been a gay male. We might test that theory by assuming it for a moment as we read Paul. When I did this for the first time, I was startled to see how much of Paul was unlocked and how deeply I could understand the power of the gospel that literally saved Paul's life.

    When I suggest the possibility that Paul was a homosexual person, I do not mean to be salacious or titillating or even to suggest something that many would consider scandalous.

    Read more: http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christianity/2004/04/Was-The-Apostle-Paul-Gay.aspx?p=2#ixzz1tjHucJXd
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    Read more: http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christianity/2004/04/Was-The-Apostle-Paul-Gay.aspx#ixzz1tjHTSpG1

    Read more: http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christianity/2004/04/Was-The-Apostle-Paul-Gay.aspx#ixzz1tjHKD9Ol
     
    #33     May 2, 2012
  4. I don't really see it that way.

    If some Congressman or whoever is vocal anti gay. basically they they're supporting the majority while they may be a minority. No big deal.

    Does the KKK secretly desire to be black?
     
    #34     May 2, 2012
  5. +1
     
    #35     May 2, 2012
  6. why do so many of them get caught with their pants down?
     
    #36     May 2, 2012
  7. Ricter

    Ricter

    In a way, possibly. The black man scares them, what with (averages) the denser muscle, deeper voice, and bigger cocks. There's a lot of women, "white" women, out there who want that, who fantasize about that.

    ; )
     
    #37     May 2, 2012
  8. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Do they desire their intelligence as well?


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    #38     May 2, 2012
  9. I think they have a break down.

    Just supposing, people link the words les and gay and transgender with sex. Hence mainstreaming these issues lead to a sexually charged dialogue, a discussion which invariably leads to discussions of sex. It happens here. happens everywhere.

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    #39     May 2, 2012
  10. ok . . . whatever.
     
    #40     May 2, 2012