Before I give up these choppy instruments for good (and I have been giving them a really damn good thrashing to no avail in the last few months) are there any successful traders on this board with at least two years solid experience at this who would be willing to train me for a fee in their methods. UK/Europe or US based. I have been trading for years and have not had such a rough time as I have had with them. I get a winning trade about 1 in every 10 - very demoralising. Small losses, but chop erodes capital. Constant drawdown is depressing. When I say successful, if you have a losing day I consider it unsuccessful. Break even/no trading is acceptable. But not for the week. Otherwise it is a waste of time. And I hate time wasting. Life is too short! Also I don't want to know about TA. It simply does not work on them. More accurately it works sometimes then fails to work, the net result being zero gain. Shame because I have spent many years studying TA. I would prefer someone who is not a commercial trainer. I wouldn't want to train others for a living - only if I was crap at training myself!