Elon Musk is a fucking moron

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Frederick Foresight, Nov 2, 2023.

  1. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    I'm an engineer. I see it for what it is. If they had built a space elevator, maybe a few goosebumps.
     
    #361     Oct 13, 2024
  2. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    Sure. You be impressed by the big shiny penis.

    Speaking of that Besos' Japanese size one was launching today too.

    Nope, they moved it to Friday.
     
    #362     Oct 13, 2024
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

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    #363     Oct 13, 2024
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Clearly a conflict of interest. Naturally Musk steered his case to this judge's court. "Federal laws that require recusal when a judge or family member can financially benefit from the outcome of a case."

    New records show Texas judge on X case didn't sell his Tesla shares after taking the suit
    NPR - https://tinyurl.com/2sa5tjte

    A federal judge in Texas overseeing a high-profile lawsuit filed by billionaire Elon Musk against the watchdog group Media Matters was buying and selling stock in Musk’s Tesla company in 2023, the year Musk filed the suit, according to financial disclosure reports recently made public.


    In August, NPR reported that U.S. District Judge Reed O’Connor of the Northern District of Texas had made an investment in Tesla of between $15,001 and $50,000. O’Connor has delivered a string of decisions in the Media Matters lawsuit in favor of Musk, who argues the advocacy group disparaged X, his social media site.

    That investment was revealed in a 2022 financial disclosure form required of all federal judges. But questions remained about whether the judge could have later sold his stock in Tesla — and if so, whether that happened before or after O’Connor accepted the Media Matters case in November 2023.

    While Tesla is not directly part of Musk’s Media Matters suit, legal ethics experts called on O’Connor to recuse himself from the case, since the outcome of a lawsuit involving one of Musk’s companies could, in turn, have an effect on the stock value of another part of his empire, including electric vehicle company Tesla, which represents the majority of his wealth.

    But a newly public financial disclosure form filed with the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts covering 2023’s calendar year shows that O’Connor bought and sold Tesla stock that year, with his position in Tesla still totaling up to $50,000. All three transactions were made before November: O’Connor bought Tesla stock in January, sold some in June, and bought again in September.

    According to that filing, O’Connor did not make any Tesla transactions that year after taking the case in November. He has not bought or sold Tesla stock in the first few months of 2024, according to the most recent publicly available financial disclosures.

    Richard Painter, an ethics expert at the University of Minnesota Law School, pointed to federal laws that require recusal when a judge or family member can financially benefit from the outcome of a case.

    “The relevant question is whether the Tesla stock price could be substantially affected by the outcome of this case,” said Painter, adding that while any such effect remains uncertain, “it possibly could if Musk’s reputation is both at issue in the case and important to Tesla's stock price.”

    Neither O’Connor nor Media Matters returned a request for comment.

    In their lawsuit, Musk’s legal team claims Media Matters produced an “intentionally deceptive report” highlighting neo-Nazi content on X, which helped set in motion an advertiser boycott of the platform.

    In August, O’Connor rejected Media Matters’ attempt to dismiss the complaint, ruling that Musk’s lawyers had sufficiently argued that the group had acted with “actual malice.” That provided momentum to X’s attorneys, who had also received approval from O’Connor to begin the process of requesting thousands of pages of internal documents from Media Matters.

    Just before that ruling, Media Matters asked that X reveal all parties that could have a financial interest in the outcome of the case, noting O’Connor’s Tesla investment. Evidence in the case, Media Matters contends, including potential testimony by Musk himself, could affect Tesla’s stock price.

    O’Connor dismissed this request, ruling that his Tesla stock is not relevant to the case.

    “First, there is no evidence that shows Tesla has a direct financial interest in the outcome of this case,” O’Connor wrote. “Tesla neither directly nor indirectly holds equity in X, Tesla is not a director or advisor, and it does not participate in the affairs of X.”

    In addition to siding with Musk, O'Connor ordered that Media Matters pay X's legal fees over the disclosure request. O'Connor called it an attempt to "force a backdoor recusal," the judge wrote. "Gamesmanship of this sort is inappropriate."

    In August, O’Connor did recuse himself on a separate Musk case against the World Federation of Advertisers. The judge is an investor in Unilever, one of the defendants in the case.

    But he did not step aside from the Media Matters lawsuit.

    None of the parties in either Musk suit are based in Texas, but lawyers for Musk wrote in filings that the cases were filed in O’Connor’s district since X has users in Texas.

    O’Connor’s involvement in the Musk cases has led to criticism over alleged “judge shopping,” or the practice of filing a suit in a district in which a litigant hopes for a favorable outcome.

    “It’s particularly extreme,” Jennifer Ahearn, senior counsel for the Brennan Center's Judiciary Program, told NPR in August about judge shopping in northern Texas. “It has become a problem for the judiciary in a way that it hasn’t been in the past.”

    In remarks O’Connor delivered recently at a Fort Worth, Texas, conference for the conservative group the Federalist Society, O’Connor nodded to the controversy.

    “I am confident you will find that Fort Worth is a very welcoming city. And, no, I don't mean for judge shopping, as some like to think,” O’Connor told conference attendees.
     
    #364     Oct 17, 2024
  5. exGOPer

    exGOPer

     
    #365     Oct 18, 2024
  6. ids

    ids

    He was emotional and made an error. Everybody can. It is a good example of Musk supporting freedom of speech on X. Thank you.
     
    #366     Oct 18, 2024
  7. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    Well...
    "politicians such as the British Reform Party leader Nigel Farage and former U.K. Prime Minister Liz Truss traveling to the U.S. to publicly support the former president."

    First class, that's quite a bit over $1000
     
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2024
    #367     Oct 18, 2024
  8. ids

    ids



    Comments:

    For $17 million in daily prizes, he just "bought" multiples of that in media coverage. It's almost like he's smart or something.

    Media: "Elon Musk is tricking Americans into supporting the Constitution"

    LOL
     
    #368     Oct 20, 2024
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You are ignoring that he is breaking the law by directly bribing voters. There is a good reason these laws are in place -- otherwise we would be back to the 1800s where strongmen representing the wealthy would just stand outside the polls and bribe people directly to vote.

    Elon Musk Veers Into Clearly Illegal Vote Buying, Offering $1 Million Per Day Lottery Prize Only to Registered Voters
    https://electionlawblog.org/?p=146397
     
    #369     Oct 20, 2024
  10. ids

    ids

    Uh, oh. I feel for you. It is obviously not vote buying. It is the signing of the petition buying. I am pretty sure that Ilon consulted with excellent lawyers.
    The gentleman from the blob is saying, "it must have been intended to induce or reward the voter for engaging in one or more acts necessary to cast a ballot". Except it is not. Any questions?
     
    Last edited: Oct 20, 2024
    #370     Oct 20, 2024