Caroline Ellison looks like a goofy teenage girl still in high school. Unfortunately for her...she'll be another Stanford grad with parents that are associated with MIT (alumni or professor) that will be heading to jail. wrbtrader
I never said that. Jail AND working at McD. Actually, a solitary confinement is a bigger punishment, but we are not cruel, right?
Apparently they let him out on partial bail: "He's not bailing himself out of jail His Stanford Law professor parents and two other individuals, who have not been named, are expected to fulfil the bail" Who the hell put up 200+MM for his bail? Kevin???
They should be in prison for the duration. Not outside of it. At least not for a good long while. We'll deal with rehabilitation later. In the meantime, they can be put to work in the pen.
Rehabilitation...does that even exist in the U.S. prison system for "white collar criminals" ? Studies have variously noted that these offenders use neutralization techniques to deny responsibility for their actions, minimize the seriousness of their criminal behavior, and use other distorted thought processes. They have also been found to be more aggressive and reckless than non-offenders. Although the social and psychological causes of their crimes are not clearly understood, therapists are still being asked to provide rehabilitation services. wrbtrader
I am perfectly fine with Caroline Ellison being sent to a man's prison. And throw away the key. No special 'girly' prisons. We shouldn't be sexist in this case. Let's treat all fairly and let them get what is coming to them
I'm saying that prison is too severe a punishment. I'm saying they should be forced to work and have 50% of their wages garnished as restitution to victims. If they can get a job making $200,000 per year that would not put them in a position to recommit their crimes, so much the better. Let them work a $200,000 year job and have half garnished as restitution. Prison is too harsh and it prevents victims from having any hope of seeing even minimal restitution. Violent offenders should be in prison and separated from society. Finanancial crimes should be punished by having to work but being free to control their finances as they had been before conviction. It isn't clear Bernie Madoff would have been hired for anything other than fry cook or cashier. But if someone wanted to pay him more than minimum wage for some labor, so long as it did not put him in a position to reoffend, then great as that would be more compensation to the victims.
A better punishment would be to have them work a chain-gang, where they do hard labor everyday for no money, and then allowed to work on a laptop before bed with a force-fed rigged market simulator, which shows them making millions of dollars a day.