Elizabeth Warren proposes a bill banning politicians from owning stock

Discussion in 'Politics' started by LS1Z28, Aug 21, 2018.

  1. 2 words. Living Trust.
     
    #11     Aug 21, 2018
  2. I think this is unnecessary. The sort of people who run for office in the US will not be influenced one bit just because their husband (Sen. "China" Feinstein) or in laws ( Sen. "Rich" McConnell) make hundreds of millions from being in the good graces of a hostile foreign power.

    It would also be an unfair burden to subject them to the same restrictions and laws ordinary plebeians must follow. Do we want to risk losing public servants like Maxine Waters over some silly banking regulations? I think not.
     
    #12     Aug 21, 2018
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  3. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    You don’t pay capital gains if you sell to serve your country. That’s one reason Paulson took the job as secy if treasury. 700mm of Goldman stock tax free.

    Secondly there are many jobs where you can’t own individual stocks. Law firms,investment firms, regulatory bodies often don’t let you hold any single stock.
     
    #13     Aug 22, 2018
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  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    They should be able to own stock, but held to the same capital gains taxes and insider trading rules we all are. No rights taken away, no extra privileges given.

    By the way, Warren saying all this after she has made all of her money.
     
    #14     Aug 22, 2018
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  5. LS1Z28

    LS1Z28

    I didn't know that law existed. I'm still not in love with the idea of forcing someone to sell something they might've owned for decades, but that exception makes this proposal much more reasonable.
     
    #15     Aug 22, 2018
  6. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Well they have a choice. They don’t have to take the government job.
     
    #16     Aug 22, 2018
  7. Full disclosure with a ban on insider trading based on insider congressional knowledge is all we need. If they are invested in slave trading stocks or something then they can answer to the public on it.

    The socialists want to criminalize capitalism and make sure that we do not have anyone in washington who has a direct stake in the success of the economy or the impact of government on the economy. That is not pretty either.

    Meanwhile, their ilk set up all these bogus foundations and rob the country and the world blind but is all for "the public good."
     
    #17     Aug 22, 2018
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  8. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Difficult to endorse when the president doesn’t have to release his tax returns, no?
     
    #18     Aug 22, 2018
  9. Yes it is. There is a tradeoff here. On the one hand, I don't want a government run by ex-school teachers and government bureaucrats who don't have any financial resources to speak of. On the other, it is called public service for a reason and the public has the right to expect both the absence of conflicts of interest and the highest level of integrity.

    Trading publicly held stocks is probably the smallest part of the problem. Many pols, eg Harry Reid, got filthy rich off insider real estate deals. If you're a developer, your whole business depends on getting government on board with your projects. What better way to do that than have a powerful insider as part of your group?

    Then there are the sweetheart deals pols' families get. One of the sleaziest was Chelsea Clinton getting a $600k per year internship with NBC I think it was.

    Running campaigns is another rich source of funds. A pol has a campaign committee and a finance committee with paid personnel. These committees hire consultants. There are zero rules against nepotism. A lot of money flows through. Not all of it is spent. Rep. Duncan Hunter was charged with misusing it, but this smacks of a political prosecution because they all use these funds one way or another. His main crime was being a republican in California.
     
    #19     Aug 22, 2018
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  10. Max E.

    Max E.

    At the very least, i beleive people in congress or in any position of government where they can "Effect change" should be required to put their money in a "Blind Trust"

    Its required in the privte sector so why should people we elect be above that law.
     
    #20     Aug 22, 2018
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