Elite Trader's Gambler's Anonymous ETGA

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  1. This is true. But when I see all that flow out there and imagine that I do not need to know direction to capture it, fascinates me..

    and..

    What even is more kewl...is the wider the pool gets the better chance of profit...it just gets better and better..


    believing in a system has nothing to do with its ultimate success
    either its a viable system or it isnt.....
     
    #191     May 2, 2005
  2. Can someone help with an excel formula? I want more acceleration when the drawdown improves...(together with variable minumum incremental distance rules this could be rather powerful)


    The system will start with 0.02% of NAV trade ticket and move up quickly based on the improved drawdown The key is to build up quickly in good times which is when prices are in a multiday chop zone..

    Also more pairs will be phased in quickly to get exposed to 8 currencies.(I do not think duplicate, correlated pairs are needed).

    This "wait time" right now, to get out of the EUR/USD and the USD/CHF, can be used to set up for the next forward test.

    This next forward test should prove to be rather interesting. I hope much can be learned.

    Michael B.
     
    #192     May 2, 2005
  3. I was thinking of these three pairs to go long and short with to start (six currencies)

    EUR/USD
    Minimum increment = 30 pips (pivot point)
    Spread=1.5 pips
    1Y range 1.3646-1.1970=16,760 pips (currently near the middle of the range)


    AUD/JPY
    Minimum increment 10 pips (pivot point)
    Spread = 3 pips
    1Y range range 83.93-75.24 = 8,690 pips (currently at the 75% level of the range)


    GBP/CHF
    Minimum Increment 15 pips (pivot point)
    Spread = 6 pips
    1Y range 2.2887-2.1517= 13,700 pips (currently at the 90% level of the range)



    Michael B.

    P.S. If I can't get an acceleration formula perhaps there could be three levels of trading percents for the daily trade ticket percents for each pair. I am not sure about this yet (trying to understand the intracacies of the mechanics of a trend and what takes place):

    Drawdown >= 25% = 0.02% trade ticket
    Drawdown >= 20% = 0.10% trade ticket
    Drawdown >= 10% = 0.25% trade ticket


     
    #193     May 2, 2005
  4. Max,

    You think this is bad...(not so bad here)

    Check out the Oanda Thread...

    Like I have been advised..take these anonymous forums with a grain of salt...

    Damn this thread sur has exploded in a few days!!!!!
     
    #194     May 2, 2005
  5. CORRECTION (minimum increments, changed to a float)



    Three pairs to go long and short in (six currencies)

    EUR/USD
    Minimum increment (pivot point) = 49 pips (16760/1.5/228)
    Spread = 1.5 pips
    1Y range 1.3646-1.1970=16,760 pips (currently near the middle of the range)


    AUD/JPY
    Minimum increment (pivot point) 13 pips (8690/3/228)
    Spread = 3 pips
    1Y range range 83.93-75.24 = 8,690 pips (currently at the 75% level of the range)


    GBP/CHF
    Minimum Increment (pivot point) 10 pips (13,700/6/228)
    Spread = 6 pips
    1Y range 2.2887-2.1517= 13,700 pips (currently at the 90% level of the range)



    Michael B.

    P.S. If I can't get an acceleration formula perhaps there could be three levels of trading percents for the daily trade ticket percents for each pair. I am not sure about this yet (trying to understand the intracacies of the mechanics of a trend and what takes place):

    Drawdown >= 25% = 0.06% trade ticket ($500.00 initial bal for each pair)
    Drawdown >= 20% = 0.30% trade ticket ($500.00 initial bal for each pair)
    Drawdown >= 10% = 0.75% trade ticket ($500.00 initial bal for each pair)

    P.S.S. Folks this gets closer to "not gambling" every day, but can the yield be maintained is the question?
     
    #195     May 3, 2005
  6. firehorse

    firehorse

    Hi,

    I don't believe there is any conflict in hypothesis as sometimes, the smallest differences can have a large effect. I'm sure that if I used his data and his algorithm that I would get the same result :) ... and of course there still probably one or two fundamental errors in my program / spreadsheet :D (... just thought of one possible one... will have to go and check :p)

    GBPUSD 2004
    30pip interval
    2746 trades
    38141 pip balance end of year
    -42472 unrealised at end of year
    18/2/04 biggest drawdown -17535
    Bal End of Year/Max DD ratio 2.18

    I have simulated every trade so I know to the minute where every trade was entered. I currently have a counter to tell me how many trades were exited on each bar (count them in, and count them out :)), but have yet to get the program to output the entry price of each trade that exited on a particular bar (up to 8), which is vital to calculate the monetary effect rather than the just the pip total.

    Your third point I'm a bit hazy with "1Y range to set the increments" (still very new to forex) and will keep reading :)

    I did try one simple layering test
    GBPUSD 2004
    10pip interval, TP 20pip
    9143 trades
    103563 pip balance end of year
    -77037 unrealised at end of year
    18/2/04 biggest drawdown -36179
    Bal End of Year/Max DD ratio 2.86

    There may be many other ways/intervals of layering that will prove more profitable

    Re-reading some of Sympatico's posts, I think that during start up, it is better to do discretionary trading than mechanical trading to 'try' and build up your realized faster than the unrealised pool.

    Best regards
    Alan
     
    #196     May 3, 2005
  7. So to summarize:
    • Trade ticket is in percent of NAV*** giving heed to a slight martingale.
    • Trade Ticket Percent can accelerate* based on a decreasing drawdown, which is reflective of a chopping type of price action. The spreadsheet and the calculations actually tell you what the market has done and what it may continue to do. All that can be done is to react based on the fact that consolidation CAN last several days.
    • Increments use a Pivot Point which follows the "natural flow" of the market. TP'S, entries and replacement trades are set from Pivot to Pivot.*******
    • Pivot Point Increments****** follow a minimum spacing rule, which is floating based on 1Y range (highest high and lowest low on a rolling one year). Keep in mind just because we follow fixed minimum's does not necessarily mean that this will be the increment...the average increment spacing will be higher. As far as I know this is a tweak that is an "added" benefit you get from following this Journal. Perhaps others are trading this Grid style system this way, but as far as I know they have not discussed it****.
    • Parity** (Mark in Oanda has introduced this in Oanda in the past) has been introduced as a tool to measure the effectiveness of the various sliding scales at work here (interestingly this has not been examined further- concealed here may be a portfolio acceleration formula).

    Michael B.

    Work in progress:

    *A daily acceleration formula that can be plugged into an Excel spreadsheet. The actual percentages used is still being examined to be able to get the growth***** needed during certain conditions to maintain this system. There is nothing discretionary here, no matter how much certain people want to feel "special".

    **The reporting spreadsheet for this Journal.

    ***The establishing of a total of 6 subaccounts, one primary account for system#2 and a cash subaccount. (this is actually completed last night).

    ****Live Forward testing in this Journal

    ***** Times of Day statistical observations.

    ****** MAE and MFE studies of the three Forex trading parts of the globe. European, Asian and North American. A simple recording of the O/H/L/C in three segments would be a step in this direction. Another reason why you want to follow this "non cryptic Journal" there is not any game playing here or Super-Ego's to struggle with. There is much work to do!

    *******The concept of Layering. How to? What time Frames? What are statistical high momentum/volatility times?

     
    #197     May 3, 2005
  8. Today's Trades (Tuesday)
     
    #198     May 3, 2005
  9. Ebo

    Ebo

    Great thread!

    If you ever plan on being successful, you have to get rid of the RED FONT color.

    Anybody that has ever worked on a trading desk will understand this.

    PS: I meant it sincerely, I have been following it!
    Try Purple.:D
     
    #199     May 3, 2005
  10. Ebo,

    lol...subliminally speaking red ink could be a bad thing...but lets think outside of the box and accept the red and understand that the more red, the more profit...get it?


    Ebo...thanks for th positive comment, I know you are brutally honest, and when you comment like this I do not know what to think, you confuse me.

    Michael B.



     
    #200     May 3, 2005
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