Elite Day Trader Paul Phillips Bruised By Market

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by marketsurfer, Sep 18, 2015.

  1. I never said "consistently"...and I also never said "intra-day swings".
    But more or less...based on the pre-market analysis :wtf:ops:...I kind of know how the broader market will behave during the day.
    and if not, I'm atleast better prepared to ride the wave(s)...I know the support and resistance levels I have in mind.
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    Last edited: Sep 20, 2015
    #41     Sep 20, 2015
  2. Q3D

    Q3D

    Ok, well, a good portion of the previous discussion was about how day trading is more difficult now, attrition is increasing, lower-time-frames have more fake-outs now, even daily candlesticks can be misleading on the ES or commodities, etc, so what you're suggesting you can do with your methodology and intuition contradicts that.
     
    #42     Sep 20, 2015
  3. EPrado

    EPrado


    I know guys who still overnight and do very well. It definitely has a bit more of a gambling mentality. I think when swing trading you REALLY have to pay attention to position sizing. I also like to come into the session each day with a clear head. When I overnighted a lot of times I was dealt a plate of shit or a plate of gold an hour before the opening. Can have a big effect on what you do the rest of the day.
     
    #43     Sep 20, 2015
  4. i960

    i960

    The more day traders, retail traders, and volatility the better. This is not a bad thing at all - that is, if you want to actually make money.
     
    #44     Sep 20, 2015
  5. Q3D

    Q3D

    What if the majority of the volatility is caused by high-speed computer trading, where their trading is not based off of the pivot levels, trendlines, and candlestick bars day traders are looking at? Is that a sort of market that has a positive correlation with increased profits for day traders in general? I think not.
     
    #45     Sep 20, 2015
  6. i960

    i960

    Correct such a thing would be considered "toxic volatility." However your example is largely hypothetical as markets have presently not lost their mind.
     
    #46     Sep 20, 2015
  7. Q3D

    Q3D

    Are you suggesting intraday price action at the 15 minute level and lower in futures and stocks has not been altered by the high-speed computer trading revolution of the past decade?
     
    #47     Sep 20, 2015
  8. i960

    i960

    Nope I'm not suggesting that one but. But present volatility is not yet too toxic for trading.

    What if I told you there is a place between black and white? That its actually a gradated scale?
     
    #48     Sep 20, 2015
  9. Q3D

    Q3D

    It sounds like you share my belief that AI will render day traders obsolete soon, with visual pattern recognition becoming possible via algorithms, aside from neutrino-based HFT.

    Aside from institutional quants and the few prop traders using DOMs it seems like the only ones profiting even slightly from the current computer-based volatility are old-timers who learned to day trade (and built their fortunes) when the markets were much more forgiving and trade-able 10-30 years ago. The future is very grim for day traders.
     
    #49     Sep 20, 2015
  10. Mtrader

    Mtrader

    Yes you do. Eprado is right.
     
    #50     Sep 20, 2015
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