Election 2024 Foreplay

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TreeFrogTrader, Feb 1, 2023.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    These are respected polling organizations doing polling in Michigan -- not left wing groups.

    I will note that smaller polling organizations located in the state are regularly more accurate than large national polling organizations when it comes to individual state polls.

    Very sad that RCP does not include any polls from October whatsoever. Makes information regarding Michigan polling next to meaningless in terms of being current. Might as well just quote the polls from July.
     
    #6771     Oct 8, 2024
  2. RCP is regularly closer to final results than 538.If they think its best not include bad polls just because they are more current until 538 proves to be more accurate than them I respect the decision.


    As far as respected polling organizations doing polling in Michigan -- not left wing groups,those groups had 538's Biden MI lead at a ridiculous 8 points. RCP's decision to leave them out had their lead a more credible 4 points,just a point off from Biden's 3 point win.
     
    #6772     Oct 8, 2024
  3. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Rampant confirmation bias at play.
     
    #6773     Oct 8, 2024
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #6774     Oct 8, 2024



  5. Overall The New York Times/Siena College poll of 3,385 likely voters, conducted between September 29 and October 6, put Harris on 49 percent of the vote against 46 percent for Trump. The poll came with a 2.4 point margin of error. Notably Harris could win the popular vote and still lose to Trump overall thanks to the Electoral College system, as Hillary Clinton did in 2016.




    Lets see what the early Oct 2020 New York Times/Siena College poll showed.

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    Current poll has Harris + 3,Biden was + 9 in that same poll in Oct 2020.

    Again,Harris doing much worse than 2020 Biden and Trump greatly outperformed a left wing poll.
     
    #6775     Oct 8, 2024
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Yes, I concur this is a very close race.

    However we are seeing more Republicans crossing over to vote for Harris than the percentage of Republicans crossing over to vote for the Democratic candidate in previous elections.

    Additionally we are seeing a large number of well-known Republican figures crossing-over and supporting Harris. Something we don't see in typical Presidential general elections.
     
    #6776     Oct 8, 2024
  7. I am not saying this is a close race.2020 was a close race,and Biden needed 7 and 8 point RCP and 538 leads for it to be close.A 2 and 3 point RCP /538 lead means Trump is comfortably ahead.
     
    #6777     Oct 8, 2024
  8. I'm voting for Jill Stein so I have no bias.
     
    #6778     Oct 8, 2024
  9. #6779     Oct 8, 2024
  10. If I were Trumps campaign manager I would make an ad of her saying this,play it daily until election day and tell Trump to shut up and sit down at Mar A Lago until election day.
     
    #6780     Oct 8, 2024