Election 2024 Foreplay

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TreeFrogTrader, Feb 1, 2023.

  1. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Naaaa.
    He said it, but he hasn't chosen yet. He's too tactical of player to get locked in this early. That's not saying he hasn't had some sit-downs with folks, but Trump will always reserve the right to change his mind if the prevailing winds dictate such.
     
    #2901     Jan 20, 2024
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  2. All presidential candidates in recent history- both dem and pub are "users" when it comes to potential vp candidates. ie. they lay out or let others believe that there are several potential vp candidates out there so that they can rotate through them as they are campaigning in various states and get voters on board in the election. It has ever been thus. They also trickly them out so that they will get pre-vetted and so that they can run their flag up the flagpole and see who salutes and who groans.

    So, if Florida is looking shaky, then no effort is put into denying that Byron Donalds will be/could be vp.

    If you want SC's vote you let as many people as possible think Tim Scott is the man or possibly Nikki Haley.

    To keep North Dakota's turnout peppy, you keep trickling out the idea that Doug Burgham is the man.

    If South Dakota, Kristin Noem.

    If New York, Elise Stefanik.

    If Ohio, JD Vance. (bonus points for being in swing state, negatives for being white male).

    And so it goes.


    Realistically, Trump is giving great consideration to Elise Stafanik (note to binary thinkers, I did not just say that he will pick her) because Melania has previously said publicly back during one of the impeachments that she likes Elise and thinks that she "has a great future." So Trump will at least be considering her, per Melania.
     
    #2902     Jan 20, 2024
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  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #2903     Jan 20, 2024
  4. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Tree... and I'm dead serious about this, and I'll do the work to expound upon the various points... but I want to write out a list of indisputable FACTS... that I can draw upon at social functions to shut some of these dyed in the wool, "hate Trump at any and all cost", MSNBC parrots the f up. I get sick of hearing all this bs.

    I mean I have said it here before, Trump is what he is, narcissistic, self centered, a buddy f'r, etc etc. He would fire me before lunch on day one if I worked for him. Or I'd quit. One or the other. But I get so sick of this non-stop bashing. His policies worked, and between him having to battle off a never ending media assault for four years, and then the onslaught of Covid in the last year and all that entailed, I think he did a great job. Is he a jerk? Yes. But did he run the country well? Yes.

    All of this racial division, and a dozen other "divisions" ... there is ZERO doubt in my mind it is all fueled by the media. Linear television, social media, the legacy networks... I mean THEY are the ones that are fueling all this and ruining this country. Talk about Nazi-ism... these brain washing tactics have been around forever, and they are straight out of Goebbels's play book.

    I just get fed up, and mad at myself actually, because I don't have a bulletized list of facts committed to my brain that I can use to put some of these people in their place, with the confidence of knowing that I am 100% correct.

    I have the laptop letter, the Russian collusion, the Afghanistan withdrawal, Trump's "right to try", domestic energy policy, NATO members finally paying more of their fair share... but none of it works. It's ridiculous. I want to be able to silence a room with an oration that would make the best criminal defense attorneys smile and give me a thumbsup... because these people... family too... piss me off. All they know is what they hear on Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid, or "The View". And trust me, I'm about a million miles from being some FOX acolyte. (Hannity is annoying and repeats things over and over and over... his take on the Goebbels strategy, Waters is a self-rightous egotistical know it all, Bret Baier is ok, and I respect Ingraham's opinions on some things, Gutfeld is witty af, but his calling is stand up comedy, not the news.)

    These people can have their opinions, and they can hate Trump all they want, more power to them, but facts are facts, and I need a list where I can read it and say "case closed".
     
    #2904     Jan 20, 2024
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  5. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    One thing also to point out when they are claiming that Hitler is a Nazi--------It was Albert Speer et al that used slave labor to further the Nazi cause. The Democrats have the border open in order, as the say, to do work that Americans will not do. Trump wanted the border shut. Who is more Naziesque?
     
    #2905     Jan 20, 2024
  6. Atlantic

    Atlantic

    :banghead:

    i'm pretty sure - you already ARE in the nuthouse.
     
    #2906     Jan 20, 2024
  7. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Yes B1, but this is an opinion and not a fact. One that which if I used in a setting such as I described above, would instantly lead to a side-tracked litany of bs careening down a rabbit hole of useless effectiveness.

    Now, assigning year by year #'s provided by Customs and Boarder patrol on both processed and estimated got-aways... that is certainly an indisputable fact. And I will gather those figures.
     
    #2907     Jan 20, 2024
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  8. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Also... a specific breakdown on the #'s of Russians, Chinese, Yemenese, and various other nationalities that aren't from S. America and are in fact originating in countries that have a wide swath of "hate America" folks in their indigenous populations, of which the likelihood of at least a portion of them are not coming here for a better life, and instead are coming here with nefarious intentions.

    And these are the ones that have the money behind them to buy a first-class ticket on the Mexican Cartel express. IE... placing an operative in our country with zero chance of getting caught. There is zero doubt in my mind the Cartels have "premium seats" available for the right price.
     
    #2908     Jan 20, 2024
  9. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Just showing that the Democrats are closer to Nazis than Trump will ever be. --And with the attempt to take away Americans right to vote for or against someone, they are closer to dictatorial, just like with The Kung Flu restrictions. The Democrats are projectionists.
     
    #2909     Jan 20, 2024
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  10. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

     
    #2910     Jan 20, 2024