Election 2024 Foreplay

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TreeFrogTrader, Feb 1, 2023.

  1. Everything that is happening in Iowa right now is a green light for Camp Rumsfeld (a.k.a NoLabels) to launch in April.
     
    #2781     Jan 14, 2024
  2. UsualName

    UsualName

    In Iowa you can switch party affiliation all the way up until the doors close at 5 pm. The only real rule is that you can only participate in one caucus. This has always been a potential wrench in Iowa for as long as I have been following politics and why Iowa caucuses have been notoriously tough to poll for.

    https://sos.iowa.gov/elections/voterinformation/regfaq.html
     
    #2782     Jan 14, 2024
  3. Yep. I got that. But I believe the desmoine register poll was based on likely republican caucus goers. Gets fuzzy on how that is assessed. Someone who has previously voted dem but utters that they intend to register pub and vote. Ahhh, okay, sounds like kind of a sketchy unproven republican if they are counted.

    Anyway, we shall see. I would not mind seeing some data from Iowa on what the party switching uptick looks like. Not sayin it is not available. Just sayin, that I have not seen it and that is one thing I would need to see to round out the view of things.

    It is clear from an NBC poll that Haley has a pantload of independents and dems supporting her. I don't doubt that. But I need to see what the real live conversion rate looks like down at the registrars office. Undoubtedly been reported but I have not seen it.
     
    #2783     Jan 14, 2024
  4. UsualName

    UsualName

    The poll I posted was the Selzer poll (Desmoinse Register) which has a rather gravity defying record of accuracy. But polls being polls could absolutely miss.
     
    #2784     Jan 14, 2024
  5. The other thing that is somewhat different is that this time in Iowa all the chatter is about second and third place. ie. Desantis vs. Haley. Polls can be accurate or not historically in regard to picking the first place winners but-how good they are at picking second versus third is probably more murky.

    Why are we having to think this through anyway? Presumably CHATGPT would just give us the right answer. OR NOT.
     
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    #2785     Jan 14, 2024
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #2786     Jan 14, 2024
  7. nitrene

    nitrene

    I'm wondering if Trump is disqualified by the Courts would Biden beat Haley or Desantis? Maybe Biden wouldn't run in that case?
     
    #2787     Jan 14, 2024
  8. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

     
    #2788     Jan 14, 2024
  9. The stellar history of the Des Moines Register polls being noted, and the merits of Haley's rise and support being noted, I land the plane and give my final projection for the Iowa Caucus, which is basically the same as three days ago, to wit:

    Plus 2 points (minimum) for Desantis over Haley.

    This will give the haters here who love to stick something up my arse some material to work with. YOU ARE WELCOME. I am a giver.

    Projections on - rather than before- caucus day do not count. Weasels here will please keep that in mind.
     
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    #2789     Jan 14, 2024
  10. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Nikki would pull a Reaganesque landslide.
     
    #2790     Jan 14, 2024