Election 2024 Foreplay

TreeFrogTrader · Dec 6, 2023

I guess Ken Langone just confirmed such and same.

Apparently the memo has gone out these days for Haley which will seal Desantis's fate.

I am still not sure what Trump is living on for cash. Maybe he doesn't need any. So far anyway.

Home Depot co-founder 'just about ready' to back Nikki Haley

Ken Langone said if the 2024 choices are Trump v. Biden, he would rather 'take the space shuttle to the moon'

https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/home-depot-founder-just-about-ready-back-nikki-haley

Mercor · Dec 6, 2023

Frederick Foresight said:
'Dictator' Trump warnings spook America

https://news.yahoo.com/dictator-trump-warnings-spook-america-013521590.html

Could a second Donald Trump presidency slide into dictatorship? A sudden spate of dystopian warnings has got America talking about the possibility less than a year before the US elections.

Dark scenarios about what could happen if the twice-impeached Republican former president wins in 2024 have appeared in the space of a few days in major US media outlets that include The Washington Post, The New York Times and the Atlantic.

Grim predictions also came from top Republican Trump critic Liz Cheney, who said that the country is "sleepwalking into dictatorship" and that she is weighing a third-party presidential run of her own to try to stop him.

Together, they paint a bleak picture of an angrier yet more disciplined Trump than during his first spell in the White House, one who would wreak vengeance on his perceived enemies and possibly try to stay in power beyond the two-term US limit.

Trump, 77, responded to the warnings in typical style by laughing them off -- with an edge.

"He says, you're not going to be a dictator, are you? I said no, no, no -- other than day one," Trump said when asked in a televised Fox News townhall on Tuesday if he would abuse power or seek retribution.

"We're closing the border and we're drilling, drilling, drilling (for oil). After that I'm not a dictator."

- 'Day one' -

President Joe Biden, who is behind Trump in the polls ahead of a likely replay of their bitter 2020 contest, said the warnings backed his own claims to be defending democracy.

"If Trump wasn't running, I'm not sure I'd be running. But we cannot let him win," the 81-year-old Democrat told a campaign event in Massachusetts.

Biden cited Trump's own increasingly violent language on the campaign trail, saying his rival's description of his opponents as "vermin" echoed the language used in Nazi Germany.

The most eye-opening piece appeared in The Washington Post by conservative commentator Robert Kagan, with the headline: "A Trump dictatorship is increasingly inevitable. We should stop pretending."

Comparing him to the power-grabbing Roman emperor Julius Caesar, the lengthy article says neither the US Constitution nor the Supreme Court could prevent Trump being "president for life" if he wanted.

Kagan wrote that if Trump survives the trials he faces over trying to upend the 2020 election and cling to power illegally, and wins the next election, he will in effect feel he is above the law and can get away with anything.

The New York Times analyzed the ways that a "second term could unleash a darker President Trump" than in his chaotic first presidency from 2017-2021.

Trump has "spoken admiringly of autocrats for decades" and would likely follow their example by packing the civil service with loyalists and using the Justice Department to crack down on opponents, it said.

In scenes reminiscent of a dystopian movie, it said Trump would also set up migrant detention camps and use the military against protesters under the US Insurrection Act.

The Atlantic magazine meanwhile is dedicating its entire January-February 2024 issue to what a Trump presidency would look like, with an editor's note titled simply: "A Warning."

- 'Dangerous moment' -

Some of the most dire forebodings have come from Cheney, the former Republican lawmaker and daughter of ex-vice president Dick Cheney, whose opposition to Trump made her a pariah in the party.

"It's a very dangerous moment," she told NBC on Sunday.

There was "no question" Trump would try to stay in office beyond 2028, she said, adding that the January 6, 2021 assault on the Capitol by supporters trying to overturn Biden's election win was merely a "practice run."

For his critics, Trump's autocratic side has long been in plain sight.

Trump already faces trial for conspiring to upend the 2020 election result, with prosecutors saying on Tuesday that evidence shows he was determined to "remain in power at any cost."

His language has turned more extreme in recent months, during which he described migrants as "poisoning the blood of our country" and suggested his former military chief should face death for treason.

But in the looking-glass world of Trump and his allies, he is always the victim.

"Joe Biden is the real dictator," Trump said in a picture posted on his conservative Truth Social network.
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Other then a full out military coup A coup would need to be done through administration
There would need to be tangible moves to get there..
None of these articles explain how the Republicans could be done.....This idea is based on irrational fear of Trump only
Its the Democrats that have created a plan to put all the power in the Executive office

One basic move would be to cancel the judiciary from its check and balance to overrule executive branch moves....The democrats said they will pack the court to make this happens

The Democrats will need to take back power from the states and they will do this by nationalizing everything..
nationalize healthcare
Nationalize education
Nationalize welfare
Nationalize voting

TreeFrogTrader · Dec 6, 2023

Gavin Newsom, a well-known presidential candidate and metrosexual dandy, caves in to the Hamas wing of the Democrat Party.

Gavin Newsom Cancels Public Christmas Tree Lighting Ceremony Rather Than Face Protesters

Gavin Newsom Cancels Public Christmas Tree Lighting Ceremony Rather Than Face Protesters (msn.com)

Cuddles · Dec 6, 2023

Mercor said:
Other then a full out military coup A coup would need to be done through administration
There would need to be tangible moves to get there..
None of these articles explain how the Republicans could be done.....This idea is based on irrational fear of Trump only
Its the Democrats that have created a plan to put all the power in the Executive office

One basic move would be to cancel the judiciary from its check and balance to overrule executive branch moves....The democrats said they will pack the court to make this happens

The Democrats will need to take back power from the states and they will do this by nationalizing everything..
nationalize healthcare
Nationalize education
Nationalize welfare
Nationalize voting
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"never you mind he said it, how would he do it?" <<you are here

UsualName · Dec 6, 2023

For reference, in August 2020 the unemployment rate was 8.4% and the deficit was $3.1 trillion.

Meanwhile most people rate their financial situation as good to very good.

Mercor · Dec 7, 2023

UsualName said:
Meanwhile most people rate their financial situation as good to very good.
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That is a Harvard Youth poll
Institute of Politics at Harvard Kennedy School
18-to-29-year-olds

Hardly representative of the public

UsualName · Dec 7, 2023

Mercor said:
That is a Harvard Youth poll
Institute of Politics at Harvard Kennedy School
18-to-29-year-olds

Hardly representative of the public
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More.

https://www.ft.com/content/9c7931aa-4973-475e-9841-d7ebd54b0f47

TreeFrogTrader · Dec 7, 2023

Did anyone see the debate last night or was the RNC/Ronna McRomney 100% successful in hiding it from the American public and making it next to impossible to find it?

Idiots, all of them.

UsualName · Dec 7, 2023

TreeFrogTrader said:
Did anyone see the debate last night or was the RNC/Ronna McRomney 100% successful in hiding it from the American public and making it next to impossible to find it?

Idiots, all of them.
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I would have watched but the Republican voters aren’t so i knew it would have a tree falling in the forest type of impact. Trump on track etc, etc.

This continues to be one of the most boring primary seasons in modern history. No contention for the nomination, both front runners with minimal enthusiasm, and discontented electorate.

vanzandt · Dec 7, 2023

TreeFrogTrader said:
Did anyone see the debate last night or was the RNC/Ronna McRomney 100% successful in hiding it from the American public and making it next to impossible to find it?

Idiots, all of them.
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Morning Joe was running clips of it earlier. Nicki appears to be the MSNBC favorite. Your boy Chris, stood up for her too. I missed who it was that said something about her, probably Vivek, but I caught the tail end of the clip with Christie going on about how great she is. Morning Joe and Micca agreed.