Election 2024 Foreplay

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TreeFrogTrader, Feb 1, 2023.

  1. UsualName

    UsualName

    Yeah you can save the disingenuous argument that it is a choice between homeless Americans and support for Israel and Ukraine. You and your ilk don’t actually care about Americans experiencing hardships. And no it’s not too nuanced as it is just a giant lie from you. The lie doesnt fly outside of your ilk who are already members of the cult.

    The hostages can become a big issue, for sure. And the Russians are almost certainly going to hang in for another year hoping for Trump to be elected so he will give them Ukraine and increase their power ~60%.

    All presidents are challenged. Biden is t special he will have to meet the challenges of the day etc etc.
     
    #1801     Oct 27, 2023
  2. If you want to discredit me and kick me in the balls to try to make the issue go away then that would be pretty much all you have to work with.

    Let's frame the issue without regard to me: There are millions of Americans- many who are democrats- who want to know why the expenses related to the illegals, and related to the wars come ahead of them, ahead of Maui, ahead of Palestine, Ohio. That issue is upon Biden to deal with. You have unlimited ways to dismiss it. And so does Joe. And unlimited reasons why his poll numbers are dropping. And, yes, I get that it is not THE ONLY ONE so that will cause your binary mind to dismiss it. We know that big numbers, anything above one, cause you to get dizzy and lose your way.
     
    #1802     Oct 27, 2023
  3. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    1.You know no way thats going to happen.

    2.Historically state polls have been far less accurate in predicting who will get the most votes than national polls.
     
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    #1803     Oct 27, 2023
  4. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Has it ever happened before?
     
    #1804     Oct 27, 2023
  5. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    In can be assessed now as no incumbent ever with Bidens numbers a year before the election has ever won a 2nd term,never ever ever.
     
    #1805     Oct 27, 2023
  6. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    From @UsualName when he didn't let hope for a candidate he liked cloud his judgement.




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    #1806     Oct 27, 2023
  7. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    RFK flips the race from Biden +1 to Trump + 2.

    Poll doesn't include West who is polling at 5.5

     
    #1807     Oct 27, 2023
  8. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Dr.West polling at 5.5%.Jill Stein got 1% in 2016,Ralph Nader got 2.7% in 2000.

    Biden not winning a single RCP poll that includes West.

    Most of Dr Wests votes will come from people like myself who voted for Biden in 2020.



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    #1808     Oct 27, 2023
  9. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark



    2016 state polls


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    #1809     Oct 27, 2023
  10. Usual Tard and I just had the ad nauseum discussion about "he cannot win so it is a nothinburger" issue versus my assertion that that is a binary approach and misses the point.

    In fact it is damaging for a candidate who has historically low polling numbers to have other politicians and pop culture figures now running around "normalizing" discussions about Biden that have hitherto been kept at a manageable level.

    Let the viewers decide.

    UT might be right about everything, and I will be happy to just watch Biden's poll numbers continue to plummet as voters fail to understand that he is right. Biden's numbers tanked by 11 points in just the last month alone. Way to go Joe. The trend is not necessarily your friend here, but whatevah.


    Bill Maher already boosting Dean Phillips' challenge to Biden: 'He's 54! Did I mention he's 54?'

    "Real Time" host Bill Maher is quickly hyping Rep. Dean Phillips, D-Minn., who formally launched a primary challenge against President Biden earlier in the day.

    "He's the new Mike Johnson. In other words the new guy I've never heard of in Congress," Maher began the conversation Friday night. "Dean Phillips, he's from Minnesota. He's Jewish. He's 54! Did I mention he's 54?"

    "He loves Biden. He says exactly what I say. He did a great job, but don't do it again," Maher continued. "Family- self-made millionaire, the family's in the organic vodka business. Dean Phillips, I'm getting behind him for president of the United States. How about you?"


    Democratic strategist and "The Five" co-host Jessica Tarlov wasn't nearly as on board with Phillips and Maher was, listing red flags including him having Lincoln Project co-founder Steve Schmidt as a campaign adviser, but Maher was not deterred.

    "I love Dean Phillips because nobody knows who the f--- he is, and that's good!" Maher exclaimed. "You know what I know about him? He's 54 and he's got a ‘D’ next to his name. He's already got half the votes and he doesn't have any of the baggage of the other guys."


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...biden-hes-54-did-i-mention-hes-54/ar-AA1j0aXU
     
    #1810     Oct 28, 2023