Election 2024 Foreplay

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TreeFrogTrader, Feb 1, 2023.

  1. wildchild

    wildchild

    Christie is butt-hurt because Trump sniffed him out in 2016 and after the election didnt offer him a job. Trump knew Christie was snake and distanced himself.

    I still remember this aricle from 2016. Its hilarious and although it is satire, it is pretty much inline with what Christie is doing today.

    https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/chris-christie-arrested-for-keying-trumps-limo


    Chris Christie Arrested for Keying Trump’s Limo

    NEW YORK (The Borowitz Report)—A once-prominent political career came to a shocking end on Friday as New Jersey Governor Chris Christie was arrested for keying the limo of President-elect Donald J. Trump.

    The incident, which rocked political circles in Trenton and Washington, happened in full view of the midtown-Manhattan crowds outside of Trump Tower, where the vandalized limo had been parked.
     
    #1211     Aug 30, 2023
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  2. smallfil

    smallfil

    DeSantis is not going to beat Trump. The only way he wins the nomination if the Democrats, RINOs and deep state manage to disqualify President Donald Trump. Trump voters like me and many more are not going to vote for DeSantis. That is a good chunk of Republican voters there. Why do you think they are trying to get a loyalty pledge from Trump? These RINO clowns think if Trump endorses anyone, they will automatically get the votes of his supporters. DeSantis screwed up big when he attacked President Donald Trump when Alvin Bragg indicted him. Instead, of attacking Alvin Bragg's abuse of powers, he attacked President Donald Trump? Pretty dumb move on his part. His supporters on Twitter are not doing any good too bashing Trump voters. Again, another good move to get our votes? DeSantis and his supporters are all rank amateurs without a clue. Tim Scott could do himself a big favor by not associating himself with DeSantis. He will get more votes by himself. Maybe, even more votes than DeSantis. Heavy favorites to win in 2024 are the Democrats because they will cheat in a huge way. Expect Joe Biden 2.0 or extreme progressive, Gavin Newsom to be their nominee. Trump has a slim chance to win, depending on how they can contain the cheating. Anyone not named Trump would have even a harder time.
     
    #1212     Aug 30, 2023
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  3. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    I think he priced that in, so to speak.
     
    #1213     Aug 30, 2023
  4. I just answer "Meghan Markle" to any questions involving the Brits. Win rate is low but there is a slight edge there. :cool:
     
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    #1214     Aug 30, 2023
  5. smallfil

    smallfil

    There are two ways to look at the Democrat field. One, Gavin Newsom is the logical choice because he will easily win California and its 55 electoral votes. A huge advantage right off the bat. What about Joe Biden 2.0? You know he is inept and would be hard pressed screwing on a light bulb but, he has enriched a lot of Democrats and RINOs so far, with his blank check policy in Ukraine, now about $115 billion for Ukraine so far? The campaign contributions from the defense industry companies must be flowing like the Colorado river to both RINOs and Democrats. So, who do these politicians back, Newsom or Biden who has enriched them with no end in sight? Joe Biden 2.0 might squeak out a win because he will have huge amounts of monies backing him. As a figurehead, he is their man.
     
    #1215     Aug 30, 2023
  6. Yup. But the Kamala factor makes things hard even for those who are prepared- as they have been in his first term- to just use Joe as a cardboard cut-out. They are hoping to be able to do that again as long as Joe shows up and can fog the mirror. That's a pretty high standard for him to mee these days. No punchline here. Just saying that he is bad bet even if you support him because Kamala will fuck up everything she touches if Joe steps down. And who in their right mind thinks Joe will go two full terms, when his ability to just make it through this week is questionable. I still lean toward the view that Joe announced just to shorten the amount of time that he would be a lame duck. Other than that, I would expect him to declare success and withdraw from the race sometime between Thanksgiving and Feb 1.
     
    #1216     Aug 30, 2023
  7. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Anything to get B1 into the discussion.
     
    #1217     Aug 30, 2023
  8. UsualName

    UsualName

    We need a “remind me” bot on this forum…

    @Baron
     
    #1218     Aug 30, 2023
  9. That's the way you guys with small penises roll. Always looking for something that you can catalogue to do an "I gotcha" on down the road. Meanwhile you mouth off and pontificate but take no positions out fear that someone will do an "I gotcha" on you.

    What a cowardly way to go through life. Small penis incarnate.
     
    #1219     Aug 30, 2023
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Chris Christie outlines reality.

    Chris Christie warns if Trump wins the GOP nomination 'we're going to lose this election'
    “And if we lose to Joe Biden, Republicans need to understand that we’re going to be looking at a packed Supreme Court, we’re going to be looking at the end of the filibuster," Christie said.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...gop-nomination-going-lose-election-rcna102347

    Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said Tuesday that Donald Trump’s coming trial in the special counsel's election interference case and other mounting legal woes will kill the Republican Party’s chances of winning the 2024 race for the White House if the former president becomes the GOP nominee.

    U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan of Washington, D.C., who is overseeing the federal election interference case, set a trial date of March 4 — the eve of Super Tuesday, when the largest number of states have primaries.

    Christie, who is running against Trump in a crowded GOP field for the presidential nomination, warned in an interview Tuesday on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” that the timing of the trial and others in three separate criminal cases against Trump would work against the Republican Party, noting Trump could be in court in the special counsel's election case for six weeks or more starting March 4 instead of being out on the campaign trail, which “Republicans should be doing every day.”

    “We simply cannot expect that someone who is facing this number of criminal trials, and, quite frankly, the conduct that underlies those charges, can be a viable fall election candidate against Joe Biden,” Christie said. “And if we lose to Joe Biden, Republicans need to understand that we’re going to be looking at a packed Supreme Court, we’re going to be looking at the end of the filibuster, and a number of other issues that folks like me and the rest of the folks in our party can’t have.”

    Christie concluded that the March 4 trial date "just makes it even clearer that he cannot be our nominee. If he is, we’re going to lose the election.”

    Chutkan heard arguments Monday from Trump’s lawyers and federal prosecutors about when the case should be set for trial. Special counsel Jack Smith proposed that the trial start in January, with jury selection beginning in December, while Trump’s team said the trial should be pushed back until April 2026, well after the presidential election. Chutkan said that while the special counsel's proposed date was too soon, Trump’s proposal of 2026 was not reasonable.

    Christie, a former Trump ally who emerged as a frequent critic after he broke with his false claims of election fraud, was asked about his reaction to the timing of Trump’s trial.

    Noting his work as a prosecutor for seven years, Christie said Trump’s election interference case is “relatively straightforward.”

    “It’s just one defendant. It’s essentially four charges,” he said. “And the idea that they have another six months to prepare for trial would be a normal situation in the District of New Jersey, and I think in probably almost any federal district of any size in the country. And usually, you know, this is the way these cases work.”

    Christie said he is “not surprised by the date” and went on to criticize the proposal from Trump’s team to delay the trial until 2026.

    “I thought the 2026 request was ridiculous,” he said. “And when your lawyers go in and make requests like that in front of a judge that they patently know is just ridiculous, it doesn’t curry you any favor with the judge in terms of the seriousness of the arguments you make.”

    He added: “So I think it was a bad, strategic move. I’m convinced it was driven by the client, not by the lawyers, as most of the bad decisions on the Trump legal team are driven by. And now they’ve got a March 4th date.”

    The Trump campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    When they proposed to begin the trial in April 2026, Trump's lawyers cited the large amount of discovery material in the case, as well as Trump’s legal issues in other jurisdictions.

    After Chutkan set the March trial date, Trump posted on Truth Social that he would appeal the decision, saying it comes “smack in the middle of Crooked Joe Biden’s Political Opponent’s campaign against him. Election Interference!” But orders setting trial dates are not appealable, according to NBC News legal analyst Chuck Rosenberg. The trial’s start date could still move because of other litigation in the case, however.

    A federal grand jury in Washington this month indicted Trump on four charges in the special counsel's probe: conspiracy to defraud the U.S., conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction, and conspiracy against the right to vote and to have one’s vote counted. Trump pleaded not guilty at his arraignment hearing this month.
     
    #1220     Aug 30, 2023