Elderly Man Faces Prison For Defending Property Against Illegals

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by AAAintheBeltway, Jul 16, 2010.

  1. How many times have we heard cops justify shooting someone because they"tried to run me over?" Apparently that excuse is reserved for police use only. An 82 year old facing two career criminal illegals is supposed to just wave goodby to them as they drive off with his trailer.


    Thieves could go free while victim faces jail time
    Julie Hayden Investigative Reporter
    4:49 AM MDT, July 7, 2010

    WHEAT RIDGE, Colo. - Admitted thieves are going free, while an elderly Wheat Ridge man is facing the possibility of spending the rest of his life behind bars, all, he says, for trying to defend his property and his life.

    82-year-old Robert Wallace said in February that he looked out his window and saw two men hooking his flatbed trailer up to their pickup. He yelled at them to stop, but they sped away, stealing his trailer. He told police he fired two shots at the pickup.

    Minutes later, police say 32-year-old Damacio Torres dropped 28-year-old Alvaro Cardona off at a hospital emergency room with a gunshot wound to the face.

    Torres did not stay to talk with police, but they caught up with him later. According to court documents, he admitted he and Cardona stole the trailer.

    Wallace did not want to talk on camera, but when we asked him if the two men threatened him he said, "They almost ran me over."

    The Jefferson County DA's office said that neither Torres nor Cardona have been charged with anything at this point, even though Torres confessed to the crime. However, the homeowner, Wallace is facing twelve felony counts, including four counts of attempted first degree murder. If convicted, he could spend the rest of his life behind bars.

    Sources say Torres and Cardona are believed to be in the country illegally and both have an arrest record. Cardona's record includes public fighting and numerous traffic offenses like driving without a license or insurance. Torres's record includes agricultural trespassing as well as a 2005 arrest for aggravated motor vehicle theft for which he was given a plea bargain to a lesser crime. Sources say Torres is also under investigation for being part of a major auto theft ring.

    Wallace is out on bond and due back in court in September to enter his plea.

    Neighbors say the thieves should be the ones facing charges and Wallace should be given an award for protecting the neighborhood.
  2. Lucrum


    Looks like Jefferson County has a retarded loony liberal D.A.

    How does what this old guy did justify attempted premeditated murder charges?
  3. Step two: legal aid lawyers sue the elderly man and take his house to compensate the poor mexicans who were viciously attacked by him. It's already happened to ranchers who had confrontations with illegals crossing their land.
  4. Ricter


    No, you don't get to shoot people in the back, not even in the US.

    Though it is curious why Jesse James is considered a hero, but Robert Ford is a coward, if you've seen the movie...
  5. We need to put R. Lee Ermy (Gunnery Sgt, USMC) on the ballot as a write-in candidate... and get rid of all these Progressive and Liberal, namby-pamby JACKWAGONS!!
  6. I don't know whether to be really sad, or really angry. Is this what it's come too? A man can't even defend himself and property?
    More and more nowdays I ask myself if it's time we arm ourselves and expect what seems inevitable. I don't own any guns, don't want any guns. Haven't fired a weapon since I was in the Corps. Haven't killed anything or anyone since those days. Had enough of it, more than enough.
    I know what it's like to be so scared you can't spit, afraid to even breath. To want to run for my life, just run away. To think maybe if I'm just really quiet they'll go away. If I don't do anything they'll just leave us alone. But it just don't work that way. You fight and maybe die, or you just die.
    At some point we, as a nation, must ask ourselves, do we make a stand and possibly lose it all in an instant, or do we voluntarily just jump into the grave they're digging for us. Is there still time to work this out, or have we passed the tipping point? I don't know, and at this stage of my life I certainly don't feel like fighting. We need a leader to step up and tell it like it is. Either things change, or we fight.
    I just don't know, but I do know this, this old jarhead ain't gonna' jump in that grave voluntarily. Bank that!
  7. Step 1) move to a State which condones Concealed Carry. And vigorously encourages its lawfully use.

    Step2) Engage Concealed Carry to protect life and property.

    Step3) ...........
  8. People have a right to defend their property, period. This isn't soviet socialism (yet) where private property doesn't exist. For better or for worse, private property exists in the united states.
  9. jem


    The article is a bit slanted or a bit vague....

    The old man is probably telling the truth.. they were driving towards him. (how else did the criminal get hit in the face.)

    He was thereby defending his life. Deadly force (in every state I know) is allowed in self defense.

    Therefore if the story holds he will be found not guilty.

    2. This may be a time jury nullification - if the self defense argument does not hold water. If the old man is tried by a jury of his peers... they will probably think a man does have a right to protect his property with a gun.
  10. da-net


    If the Jefferson County DA, the judges, & the police had done their job that they were being paid to do, but obviously refused this situation would not have happened as these two would have been in jail or deported.

    Mr. Wallace would not have been placed in jeopardy nor had to defend himself or his property.

    A true piece of justice would be those in the auto theft ring steal all the cars, trucks, trailers, well anything they can get ONLY from the Jefferson County DA, the judges, & the police. That would be poetic justice.

    Is there a possibility of a "fruit of a poisonous tree" defense for Mr. Wallace since they are illegals and the government knew it?
    #10     Jul 16, 2010