Education to prepare for trading career

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by 2Rip764, Apr 20, 2010.

  1. I would suggest going into a "normal" career outside of investing/trading.
     
    #11     Apr 20, 2010
  2. fogut

    fogut

    Would you say then, now is a really good time to get into trading since we are in the middle of a bull market.

    Thanks.
     
    #12     Apr 20, 2010
  3. Business Econ is simply for the foundation. I solid understanding of the environment is important but it is worthless from a "trading" standpoint.
    The trading success is based on the physics, logic and problem solving skills.
     
    #13     Apr 20, 2010
  4. 1) Any time is a good time to be involved with trading, especially if you can "control your destiny" by not being somebody else's employee.
    2) It depends on how you measure a bull market. If you believe March-2009 was a "final bottom", then you should feel confident about longer-term prospects.
    3) If you concentrate more on the "top" from late-2007, then you may believe there's more downside before things get better. :confused: :( :eek: :D
     
    #14     Apr 20, 2010
  5. fogut

    fogut

    Thanks.

    Any suggestions as to how one can transfer from another field to trading if I have few years of profitable experience ? In other words, what is the most likely place that would want to hire someone like my background - Prop. firm, BB firms, Hedge fund.. ?

    Thanks again.
     
    #15     Apr 20, 2010
  6. first, separate "becoming a trader for myself/prop trading" from "getting a job as a trader"

    The reality is, after the disaster in the financial arena:

    1) huge numbers of financial employees were let go
    2) With little background, it is now even much harder for an entry-level to get into trading for a real company. There are lots of experienced people in line ahaead of you, and they will be hired first.
    3) many more jobs as traders have been replaced by algorithmic trading (ie, by computers) at major financial houses
    4) many other financial jobs have offshored to Hyperabad & Bangalore, India
    5) Many of the exchanges have gone electronic, so working on a floor is not an option for most

    Prop trading is generally not really a trader job. It is just a twist on trading for yourself. And new people rarely get much interaction with the few profitable traders at a prop firm.
     
    #16     Apr 20, 2010
  7. To get into a Prop. firm all you need is 5-10k and a heartbeat!!
     
    #17     Apr 20, 2010
  8. fogut

    fogut

    What do you think of the prop firms that gives you training, pays you a small salary and provides firm's capital for you to trade ? I know there are very few firms that are like that. However, they do seem legitimate on the surface.
     
    #18     Apr 20, 2010
  9. fine, pigeon brain

    I am sure you said that because you have commanding knowledge yourself

    DISPROVE the above, point by point. Don't just demonstrate that you are learning how to use your keyboard for the first time...
     
    #19     Apr 20, 2010

  10. Hello mate,
    I assume you're completing a Master degree and not just a certificate program. In which case, make sure you take Financial Modeling courses (any decent program will offer I & II. Take both and go above and beyond each model. Learn how to derive each model and then how to program it from scratch in C++). Take a stochastic processes, operations research models and numerical analysis course (you will likely learn Matlab/R in these courses). Take as many of these courses with Russian professors – no joke, if their last name ends in ski, they are your friends when it comes to learning. As electives, take options, fixed income and credit derivatives. I would also recommend an advanced financial econometrics course (particularly if Greene’s book is used).

    Hope that helps...
     
    #20     Apr 20, 2010