I recently got a PM telling me what some people are making trading their own systems, working for prop shops. Those days are over for rebate traders/scalpers, but there are probably new ways exploited now. It set me back a notch. I am told I am trading an "investment grade" system, not a "trading grade" system. Should I be pursuing triple digit returns or should I continue plodding along with controlling drawdown and setting my goals at 1:4 max risk to cumulative profit ratio? I guess what I am asking, is what is considered a good system? I realize this has been asked before, and I have even answered some people in those threads, thinking I knew the answers, for which I apologize now, in light of this new information I have received. To get into the insiders club/circle, how much do I need to produce? 50%?....100%......1000%....9000%...I think drawdown should max 20% right? with a minimum of 2 years track record right? What is Traders Grade? and What is Investment Grade? Michael B. P.S. I do not have a degree and I am not a quant...just a pure trader. So HF's will not have me, I don't think. Now don't laugh, I trade Retail Spot Forex.