Ecuador stands for liberty?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by PHOENIX TRADING, Aug 16, 2012.

  1. Any woman can charge a man with rape at any time. So, he goes to Sweden, is acquitted, but the US wants him now, which was the original goal.

    Hopefully, if you were him, you would not be that stupid.
     
    #11     Aug 17, 2012
  2. Mighty convenient for that charge to pop up after the wiki leaks brouhaha eh?
     
    #12     Aug 17, 2012
  3. We are not not talking about abortions, we are talking about Ecuador. Please stay on message. And no, abortions most definitely have severe and lasting consequences. Now, back to Assange.
     
    #13     Aug 17, 2012
  4. No way, a few days ago you were lambasting conservatives for their stance on abortion . You need to splain yourself here lucy.
     
    #14     Aug 17, 2012
  5. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    You are obfuscating again. Typical. I am fully aware that anyone anywhere can charge anybody with a crime. We are a nation of laws. When someone charges someone with a crime we have a process we have to follow. The victims should be allowed to present evidence of that crime and if a court feels that evidence is sufficient to proceed to a trial then the process should continue to a court of law where the defendant will have a right to defend themselves against those charges. Running from the law however is cowardly. Perhaps you don't feel that way. Perhaps you feel rape is one of those things that people make a big deal about nothing. Perhaps you don't give a shit about women. Many men feel that way so you are not alone there.

    And if I were him Ron, I would not have raped those women. So I guess it's a moot point isn't it?
     
    #15     Aug 17, 2012
  6. I just did Ricky.

    Abortions have severe and lasting consequences.

    BUT IT REMAINS A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE!
     
    #16     Aug 17, 2012
  7. First you holla bout a nation of laws, then you presume guilt. What is wrong with that picture?

    Man, some days.......
     
    #17     Aug 17, 2012
  8. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Ron, Assange admitted to the crime. Perhaps you don't know or remember the details of the case. He admitted to what the women claimed but responded that it was not a big deal. Please don't ever fucking talk about women's right again on this forum.

    This is why he doesn't want to go back to Sweden. From the written testimony he gave, he's fucked.
     
    #18     Aug 17, 2012
  9. Link, please. Tried Google, no dice.

    Is this something you heard at some meeting somewhere?
     
    #19     Aug 17, 2012
  10. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Ron there is 100 pages of documents on line. Here is the gist of it from one of the 6 or 7 women who came forward. He picked up a woman at a bar and they went back to her apt. They drank a little, maybe smoked some weed, and she passed out. Up to that point, nothing happened between them. She wakes up in the middle of the night with him on top her and inside her. She tells him to get off, he doesn't.

    Another account from another women was similar. This time he was fooling around with another women, he starts getting aggressive with her. He then starts f*cking her. She tells him to put on a condom. He says he did, which of course he lied, she doesn't say anything until she realizes what happened.

    In both cases he admitted to both acts. He said or claimed both women enjoyed it and only changed their mind after the fact (morning remorse).

    In both instances, at least in this country, if a man fucks a woman while she is sleeping without her consent, we usually consider that rape. Otherwise any man could drug a woman with roofies and sleep with her and claim, hey she was sleeping, she never said anything. Same with the old condom trick. A woman can consent to sex but may not consent to unsafe sex. continuing the act without a condom is considered rape in that case.

    Assange, like a lot of men in this world who don't respect women, do not see these things as serious crimes as they have no respect for women in general. It's not like he dragged her into an alley and raped her. Most men just believe or want to believe the woman wanted it or really enjoyed it but is just not admitting to it or simply woke up the next morning and feels embarrassed about what happened. Whatever the excuse, he admitted to it. About 7 women came forward all telling similar stories. He doesn't "believe" what he did was rape. The law says otherwise. In fact, in Sweden, the rape laws are more serious then they are here in the states. Regardless, any rational person at the very least would agree that he should show up in court and try to defend himself against these charges.

    Trying to defend this behavior because you personally like him or his cause is reprehensible. It's the same as looking the other way when Sandusky raped those young boys because, hey we can't hurt Penn State's football program.
     
    #20     Aug 17, 2012