Economists Credit Trump as Tailwind for U.S. Growth, Hiring and Stocks

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  1. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    So the deficit was higher in 2017 than 2009?
     
    #41     Jan 12, 2018
  2. jem

    jem

    you may be confusing yearly deficit with lifetime deficit.
    obama spent about 7 trillion more than he took in.
    there is no way in the world you can call that a reduction in the deficit.

    there were a few years in the middle where the yearly deficits declined... but they were still deficits.


    your chart is as a percent of gdp.




     
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    #42     Jan 12, 2018
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  3. jem

    jem

    yes the cumulative deficit was about 7 trillion higher.
    the yearly deficit was lower but there were still deficits every year. Obama never saved us any money... he always added to the debt and the cumulative deficit.


     
    #43     Jan 12, 2018
  4. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Indeed
     
    #44     Jan 12, 2018
  5. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Coming into office with a 1.2 trillion dollar deficit and leaving with a 600 billion dollar deficit is saving us money,a lot of money.
     
    #45     Jan 12, 2018
  6. jem

    jem

    losing a trillion for a few years and losing half a trillion for a few years still lost us 7 trillion dollars.

    that is not saving money... that is the problem with the establishment... they consider having a 600 billion dollar shortfall every year ... saving money.

    the funny thing about all this is (... I just care about the truth...) I don't even argue if the deficit is bad or good any more. I can't tell until we learn how much money the FED actually creates every year.

    a 600 trillion dollar deficit might not even be inflationary considerong how many dollars are in circulation around the world and the world economy is growing. if we just created the 600 billion without borrowing it, it might just match the need of the growing world economy. it might not cause inflation.

    the question is how many trillions is the FED creating every year without it benefitting our govt or our citizens.



     
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    #46     Jan 12, 2018
  7. Max E.

    Max E.

    Tony Everyone here knows YOUR networth relies more heavily on continued handouts, so you dont even have an argument here, but the fact remains, the conservative states have far lower debt, and astronomically lower debt per capita, thats a fact that can be demonstrted easilyt
     
    #47     Jan 12, 2018
  8. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    A 600 billion dollar deficit is better than a 1.2 trillion dollar deficit.Obama is not the one who made the deficit 1.2 trillion,that was bush.
     
    #48     Jan 12, 2018
  9. Max E.

    Max E.

    lol, Obama was the fiscal hawk....... well played cotton. :D
     
    #49     Jan 12, 2018
  10. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    My networth does not rely on handouts and my weight and health does not rely on gastric surgery.
     
    #50     Jan 12, 2018