Economists Credit Trump as Tailwind for U.S. Growth, Hiring and Stocks

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Arnie, Jan 11, 2018.

  1. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    This is absolutely surreal. Good one.
     
    #31     Jan 12, 2018
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    There has been a deficit since 2001. To argue that the deficit has decreased during any time frame is horseshit. Reminds me of an old boss that used to say "our losses are decreasing at a higher rate". If one year you are losing 200 million, and the next you are losing 180 million, you are still losing. Only an economist would claim that's a good thing, unless you can show a declining deficit for a long period of time (10 years or something).

    Another gag you con artists will refer to is the deficit as a percent of GDP. That's always a hilarious statistic trick that you folks think no one has caught onto. All that simply says is "oh yeah, I can borrow a lot more if I'm bringing in more cash." Awesome if you operate on a balanced budget procedure (we don't) because you won't spend more than you bring in. But that's not the way the government works. Following that stat means governments add programs, but then once revenues decline they never get rid of the programs and we have ourselves in a larger overspend situation.

    This doesn't even take into account that the government will, when convenient, change the calculation methodology of GDP!

    You're a fraud.

    Deficit by year.
     
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    #32     Jan 12, 2018
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  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    E-CON-omists.

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    #33     Jan 12, 2018
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  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Will the voters see the benefit though? What's so great about a bigger tax return if the buying power is lessened?
     
    #34     Jan 12, 2018
  5. Tom B

    Tom B

    Well, economics is a soft science, so there's more room for subjective political biases. :)
     
    #35     Jan 12, 2018
  6. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    That is true.Period.

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    #36     Jan 12, 2018
  7. Max E.

    Max E.


    LOL, man ive all but given up, there is people on this site who will actuallly claim that increasing the labour supply somehow builds an economy......... unfortunately there isnt a single argument that can legitimately substantiate that argument, but who cares, economics is now based on "Feelings" Meaning numbers no longer matter the onlt thing that matters is how people feel about it.

    There is no one who is literate in the market or economics who thinks that raising wages and raising regulations and raising taxes actually presents a giant boom to the economy, so if that side is demonstably false how can the inverse be true? The answer is that it cant.


    I would love for a liberal to explain to me mathematically how adding millions of people to the labour supply is better for the wages of the american guy living in a "Shithole" anywhere outside of the shite holes dems have created.
     
    #37     Jan 12, 2018
  8. jem

    jem

    the deficit did not go down. there was a short fall every year. so under Obama the deficit went up about 7 trillion dollars.
    we also borrowed most of the the money so the national debt went up as well.

    if you or exthinker were trying to be honest you might say that the yearly budget deficits were declining until 2014 and then they started going up again.

     
    #38     Jan 12, 2018
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  9. Max E.

    Max E.

    Jem your making yourself sound real dumb here sorry i like you dude but the deficit went down...... only after republicans took boith houses though....











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    #39     Jan 12, 2018
  10. jem

    jem

    fantasy bullshit. I was in school in d.c. at the time and worked on the hill. I observed the passage of star wars from the gallery.
    One of my professors edited the few hundred page report which briefed congress real time as it was happening.

    He predicted exactly what was about to happened but warned how dangerous it could be.
    He explained that 30 percent of russian gpd was going to defense and the generals admitted they could not keep up with star wars spending an with the pressure coming from poland the generals and hardliners had to give in to glastnost.

    The history is there for all to read... but a lefty like you could not admit it.

     
    #40     Jan 12, 2018