No, I won't argue that fact at all. What I find hilarious is your choice in pulling convenient subsets of the data to suit your narrative. If you're going to discuss gun violence, why only a particular type of gun violence? I'll bet if we picked all "massacres" that occurred between June and September, we'd find all the shooters were male! We should make males illegal!! Thousands of people are killed every single year due to gun violence in the United States. But lets ignore all that and just focus on shooters that are so committed, so intent on committing mass murder, that they have stock piled custom weaponry, broken all sorts of laws and are willing to die for the sole act of killing other people. These are the incidents that cannot be prevented by any law at all. Focusing on the instances that are way out of the probability scale, and then making public policy based on those is beyond foolish. It's the type of stupidity only a liberal would come up with. Millions of people own guns legally and never commit any crimes. How many mass murderers have their been? What is the percentage of people who commit crimes when you consider the whole pot? I mean, since we're only talking about "massacres" now. LOL...
I have. Show me where it says that 70% of all gun violence is committed by those who legally own firearms. Link please. Not you, d08, you've already clarified that you are referring to a convenient subset of the data which is irrelevant in the argument on guns. Let's hear how comagnum supports his claim.
Hand gun law in Washington DC (and the associated statistics when compared with the national average). That spike in the 90s, all illegally owned weapons.
Florida right to carry law becomes effective, and suddenly murder rates plummet. Coincidence? Perhaps. Here is Texas. Murder rates were plummeting before right to carry law, but the right to carry law certainly didn't do any damage to the rate. Michigan. Same thing.
Fatal accidents by type, 2014 latest year data available. Firearms all the way down on the right. Cars #2 from the top. Ban cars!
NON-Fatal Accidents See firearms at the top? Me neither. It's way at the bottom, after dog bites. Ban dogs! I can do this all day long.
Studies going back many decades have concluded in academia the same over & over - homes with guns have a much higher rate of gun related deaths. The same applies to states & nations - more guns = more gun deaths, come on this is not rocket science and where you get your cartoon quality no-name charts is amusing. Childrens Hospital Those people that die from accidental shooting were more than three times as likely to have had a firearm in their home as those in the control group. https://www.cdc.gov/injury/images/l..._of_injury_deaths_violence_2015_1050w760h.gif https://www.cbsnews.com/news/study-guns-in-home-increase-suicide-homicide-risk/ https://injury.research.chop.edu/vi...-violence/gun-violence-facts-and#.Wd01IDu1thE https://www.bradycampaign.org/risks-of-having-a-gun-in-the-home
Cartoon, no-name charts? Here are the sources. They are well documented and easily verifiable. Feel free to vet them if you wish, though I rather suspect you will just throw out horseshit to continue your narrative. As for saying "Homes with guns have a much higher rate of gun related deaths", that's like saying "Households that own a car are more likely to have a family member involved in a fatal car accident, too." No shit. If there is no gun in a household, then there is likely to be no incident in the home involving a gun. Duh. Still doesn't change the fact that accidental shootings rank way, way below other accidents in and around the home. As far as suicides go, do you honestly think that if someone wants to kill themselves, and you ban guns, they're going to suddenly go "you know, what? I can't find a gun to kill myself so I guess I'll just go on living." What a joke!
Households with pools are more likely to have a child drown. Households with poison substances are more likely to have a child ingest. Households with 4 wheelers are more likely to have a child flip one. Households with lead paint are more likely to have a child die from poisoning.