Ecological Overshoot

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by Ricter, Nov 23, 2021.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    All the more reason to eat beef.
     
    #261     Jan 17, 2023
  2. Ricter

    Ricter

    Yeah, I saw this. Unfortunately, his way out of The Predicament is also "technology will save us".
     
    #262     Jan 17, 2023
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Right, but he believes that the reason the drop off on your graph is occurring is because schools are focusing on all the woke crap rather than educating on the sciences.
     
    #263     Jan 17, 2023
  4. Ricter

    Ricter

    That chart appears to cover 70 years of history.
     
    #264     Jan 17, 2023
  5. Ricter

    Ricter

    Res Policy. 2021 Jun; 50(5): 104226.
    doi: 10.1016/j.respol.2021.104226
    PMCID: PMC8024784
    PMID: 34083844
    The fall of the innovation empire and its possible rise through open science
    E. Richard Gold
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    Abstract
    There is growing concern that the innovation system's ability to create wealth and attain social benefit is declining in effectiveness. This article explores the reasons for this decline and suggests a structure, the open science partnership, as one mechanism through which to slow down or reverse this decline. The article examines the empirical literature of the last century to document the decline. This literature suggests that the cost of research and innovation is increasing exponentially, that researcher productivity is declining, and, third, that these two phenomena have led to an overall flat or declining level of innovation productivity. The article then turns to three explanations for the decline – the growing complexity of science, a mismatch of incentives, and a balkanization of knowledge. Finally, the article explores the role that open science partnerships – public-private partnerships based on open access publications, open data and materials, and the avoidance of restrictive forms of intellectual property – can play in increasing the efficiency of the innovation system.

    Keywords: Innovation, Research productivity, Open science, Intellectual property, Patents, Research incentives, Public-private partnerships, Networks

    Full publication...
     
    #265     Jan 17, 2023
  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    And correlates inversely to this.

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    Now, obviously the solution isn't to cut out education, but maybe we should be pushing our students more towards STEM than towards Liberal Arts, Equity Studies and Philosophy?
     
    #266     Jan 17, 2023
  7. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    I'm sure gutting education budgets in lieu of corporate tax cuts because of "scary CRT" and "too many low income households" in an encroaching attempt to privatize education all the while slashing public research budgets because libertarians tell us "Elon et. al. can do it better and cheaper" as we approach 1T$/yr in defense while education and healthcare debt balloon to comical levels has nothing to do with it.
     
    #267     Jan 17, 2023
  8. Ricter

    Ricter

    Imo, STEM without the guidance of the liberal arts and humanities is just a machine running for... itself, monstrous.
     
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    #268     Jan 17, 2023
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  9. Mercor

    Mercor

    Humans survive because through technology we mitigate the effects of weather change
    110 million live below sea level ,expected by year 2100 to rise to 190 million....I think we can fugue out how to keep 80 million more people alive below sea level
    We cant wait for the Earth to fix itself
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    The upshot of the study is that 110 million people worldwide live below the high-tide level; that includes many partly protected by sea walls or other infrastructure, as in New Orleans. Even under a scenario of very modest climate change, that number will rise to 150 million in 2050 and 190 million by 2100
     
    #269     Jan 17, 2023
  10. Ricter

    Ricter

    You're not wrong. But clearly the cost of perpetuating this civilization, its maintenance much less its growth, is rising. So far we've been able to throw cheap fossil fuels at every problem and win a measure of success, but with a concomitant measure of pollution (I use that term broadly). This approach is unsustainable.
     
    #270     Jan 17, 2023